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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Benny Lava » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:57:18

Jake will start in the rotation, but I think that by July/August he'll be in the bullpen in a long-relief/spot-start role.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Titlehungry » Wed Nov 13, 2019 13:11:35

Benny Lava wrote:Jake will start in the rotation, but I think that by July/August he'll be in the bullpen in a long-relief/spot-start role.


I'm sure he'll be a joy to have around if that happens
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Nov 13, 2019 13:15:25

Benny Lava wrote:Jake will start in the rotation, but I think that by July/August he'll be in the bullpen in a long-relief/spot-start role.

Can't see it. I think they'd trade him at any cost or release him before that.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby azrider » Wed Nov 13, 2019 13:16:52

Uncle Milty wrote:
Benny Lava wrote:Jake will start in the rotation, but I think that by July/August he'll be in the bullpen in a long-relief/spot-start role.

Can't see it. I think they'd trade him at any cost or release him before that.


yeah, i'm sure he would be down with the demotion. dude would go on the injured list sooner healthy than have his pride injured.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby TempleFan22 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 13:31:47

Rosenthal says talk of a Philles/Hamels reunion is premature as many teams are interested. Also says they've checked in on MadBum and could be motivated to keep him away from the Braves.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Benny Lava » Wed Nov 13, 2019 13:34:50

Uncle Milty wrote:
Benny Lava wrote:Jake will start in the rotation, but I think that by July/August he'll be in the bullpen in a long-relief/spot-start role.

Can't see it. I think they'd trade him at any cost or release him before that.

True. Forgot he's the Phillies' version of Trump.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MFP » Wed Nov 13, 2019 13:35:11

stevemc wrote:I think Howard is at the back end of the rotation this season.

Eflin probably stays in the rotation as a bridge to Howard and then filling in for an injured aging pitcher. Hamels makes way too much sense. I just see G. Cole going to the west coast. It'd be great to get Strasburg and I'd settle for Wheeler.

Same, but it might be wise (mainly for innings reasons) to wait until June or so until he is.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby rolex » Wed Nov 13, 2019 13:47:18

TempleFan22 wrote:Rosenthal says talk of a Philles/Hamels reunion is premature as many teams are interested. Also says they've checked in on MadBum and could be motivated to keep him away from the Braves.

Bumgarner would be a good addition on several levels. First there is the benefit of keeping him out of Atlanta. There is his performance. It’s not what it once was but it isn’t shabby either. WHIP was in the 1.2 ish area last year. He’s a lefty which the rotation lacks. If eighty million over four years gets it done, it would be money well spent.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby gr » Wed Nov 13, 2019 13:48:11

Wouldn't worry about Arrieta too much, he'll be on IR by mid-May
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Slowhand » Wed Nov 13, 2019 15:17:44

Yeah, I don't see Jake being healthy for much of the season.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby SCPhillyPhan » Wed Nov 13, 2019 16:36:17

JFLNYC wrote:Last one is easy: We’ve got a bullpen full of our own bounce back relievers.


Yep. Hopefully we sign 'at least two starters' and then we have lots of last year's left over starters who might make good bullpen reclamation projects.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MattFoley » Wed Nov 13, 2019 16:37:01

rolex wrote:
TempleFan22 wrote:Rosenthal says talk of a Philles/Hamels reunion is premature as many teams are interested. Also says they've checked in on MadBum and could be motivated to keep him away from the Braves.

Bumgarner would be a good addition on several levels. First there is the benefit of keeping him out of Atlanta. There is his performance. It’s not what it once was but it isn’t shabby either. WHIP was in the 1.2 ish area last year. He’s a lefty which the rotation lacks. If eighty million over four years gets it done, it would be money well spent.


Plus he would improve our pinch hitting.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Werthless » Wed Nov 13, 2019 16:38:20

I would be shocked if we add 0 or 3 starting pitchers. I think the most likely situation is 1 midtier (read: not Gerrit Cole) multiyear contract and 1 lower cost, short term deal. Something like Wheeler and Pomeranz/Miley/Hill. If we add 2, they'll probably seek out a lefty with one of them.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby WhiteyFan » Wed Nov 13, 2019 17:00:47

Werthless wrote:I would be shocked if we add 0 or 3 starting pitchers. I think the most likely situation is 1 midtier (read: not Gerrit Cole) multiyear contract and 1 lower cost, short term deal. Something like Wheeler and Pomeranz/Miley/Hill. If we add 2, they'll probably seek out a lefty with one of them.


This would be the equivalent of a run up the middle on 4th and 10.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MFP » Wed Nov 13, 2019 21:16:24

Steaks says the Phillies talked with Boras at the GM meetings about his pitchers as well as Mike Moustakas.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Shadow » Wed Nov 13, 2019 21:42:12

Salisbury backs up what I heard about Moustakas. I don’t know if they’ll sign him, I’d bet against it simply because I think other teams will be willing to pay more as the Phillies focus on pitching, but it’s much more likely than Donaldson, who I’ve heard they are not all that interested in.

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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Nov 13, 2019 23:05:25

This is from The Athletic article. I had no idea the minor leagues (or at least those below AAA) used different baseballs than the majors.

Klentak said the Phillies need to give Howard an opportunity to pitch at Triple-A Lehigh Valley with the big-league baseballs — something he hasn’t done yet during his professional career — because of the noticeable difference compared to the baseballs used at other minor-league levels. Klentak pointed to the impact the baseballs are having on pitching development. The Phillies want Howard to gain experience using them in game action before joining the big-league rotation.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby MoBettle » Wed Nov 13, 2019 23:17:27

Yeah Triple A had a similar HR jump to the majors while every other level didnt.
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby TempleFan22 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 23:26:16

Jon Gray available. Get em?
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Re: 2019-20 Phillies Offseason: Striving for Better Than Ave

Postby Werthless » Thu Nov 14, 2019 00:25:11

MoBettle wrote:Yeah Triple A had a similar HR jump to the majors while every other level didnt.

AAA HR rate jumped 60%, dwarfing the increase in MLB.

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