philliesphhan wrote:It sounds like the Phillies are confusing analytics with micro managing. Analytics should tell you, if applied properly, what players to acquire, get rid of, etc. It doesn't tell you what to do on every goddamn pitch in a given situation, and it certainly doesn't say "make your players do things they don't feel comfortable doing"

As a result, the Astros are dominating the minors even more than the majors. In 2018, four years removed from the franchise’s last no. 1 pick, Astros pitchers led their league in strikeout rate at six successive levels, from MLB down to short-season A-ball. (At the seventh level, Rookie ball, their rank sank all the way to second.) Weighted by playing time, the average age of those minor-league pitchers above Rookie ball, 22.9, was the lowest of any AL organization. Astros hitters above Rookie ball, meanwhile, were second in walk-to-strikeout ratio and—despite not playing in any notably offense-friendly parks—fourth in home-run rate. And as for wins—well, Astros minor-league teams led all organizations in combined winning percentage above Rookie ball (.585), short-season A-ball (.587), full-season A-ball (.589), and High-A (.592).

The way they did that is telling, too. According to TrackMan data, Astros hitters led the minors in pull percentage and the percentage of balls hit in the air. Despite that power-centric approach, they chased balls at the third-lowest rate and maintained an above-average contact rate. On the pitching side, Astros minor leaguers led all teams in fastball velocity, breaking-ball spin rate, off-speed-pitch percentage, percentage of four-seam fastballs thrown in the upper third of the zone, and whiffs per swing. Name a data-driven developmental trend in today’s game, and the Astros aren’t just at or near the forefront of it at the big-league level, but they’re also grooming the current roster’s replacements from Triple-A down to the Dominican Summer League.

Werthless wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:It sounds like the Phillies are confusing analytics with micro managing. Analytics should tell you, if applied properly, what players to acquire, get rid of, etc. It doesn't tell you what to do on every goddamn pitch in a given situation, and it certainly doesn't say "make your players do things they don't feel comfortable doing"

I don't think you're aware of what teams like the Astros are successfully doing on these fronts. Gerrit Cole's step forward was not due to knowing he was good already.

kayy.harper
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kayy.harper
1 down, 12 to go little man #godaddy — Grateful for all the wonderful people this organization introduced us to this season. Thanks for the warm welcome! We love you, Philly

jt_realmuto
Philly, I know it wasn’t the season we all wanted, but thank you for making my first year so memorable. You welcomed my family and I with open arms and we are forever grateful! Time to get to work on 2020

Shadow wrote:As of before the all star break Klentak was safe, heard that while he’s still probably keeps his job it is no longer a lock. Middleton isn’t happy with how the season ended or the way the pitching was handled. So he is no lock to return, but I’d still put it at better than 50/50 he stays.

Bill McNeal wrote:FWIW, Cubs guy on the Athletic mentions Sam Fuld as a possible replacement for Maddon, but he also only mentioned former Cubs players as possible replacements, so take it with a grain of salt.

CMBaseball41
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philliesphhan wrote:

Werthless wrote:

philliesphhan wrote:It sounds like the Phillies are confusing analytics with micro managing. Analytics should tell you, if applied properly, what players to acquire, get rid of, etc. It doesn't tell you what to do on every goddamn pitch in a given situation, and it certainly doesn't say "make your players do things they don't feel comfortable doing"

I don't think you're aware of what teams like the Astros are successfully doing on these fronts. Gerrit Cole's step forward was not due to knowing he was good already.

Was being overly simplistic. The point is the Phillies may have analytics but they don't seem to be applying it well.