Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Fri Sep 27, 2019 09:35:25

I'd fire MacPhail and let the new guy choose his GM/coach. Hire literally anyone from the Dodgers, Yankees or Astros.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Sep 27, 2019 09:36:02

CFP wrote:Incredibly damning article on the failures of this team:

https://theathletic.com/1245510/2019/09 ... ent-wrong/


ummmm wow

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby Uncle Milty » Fri Sep 27, 2019 09:38:36

CFP wrote:Incredibly damning article on the failures of this team:

https://theathletic.com/1245510/2019/09 ... ent-wrong/

Snippets or highlights for the subscription impaired are appreciated.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Fri Sep 27, 2019 09:46:01

Uncle Milty wrote:
CFP wrote:Incredibly damning article on the failures of this team:

https://theathletic.com/1245510/2019/09 ... ent-wrong/

Snippets or highlights for the subscription impaired are appreciated.


The Phillies coaches and front office have no idea what they're doing per more than a dozen team sources.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby heyeaglefn » Fri Sep 27, 2019 09:47:02

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:I'd fire MacPhail and let the new guy choose his GM/coach. Hire literally anyone from the Dodgers, Yankees or Astros.

Kapler might know someone

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby CFP » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:19:37

Soon after Kapler was hired as Phillies manager in late October 2017, the team announced that Kranitz, formerly the assistant pitching coach, would remain as a coach but in an unspecified role. He was anointed pitching coach three weeks later. During that time, the Phillies continued to interview candidates for the pitching coach job. Kranitz was the only coaching holdover whom the front office pressed Kapler to retain.

But Kapler and Kranitz often clashed, multiple sources said, while most of the pitchers saw Kranitz as a confidant.

Kapler and Young, who was hired as the assistant pitching coach in 2018, leveraged Kranitz’s relationships with the pitchers and often filtered ideas through him. It helped because Kranitz had established a level of trust with many of the pitchers. Young conducted extensive work on scripting potential sequences and in-game maneuvers, gaining Kapler’s support in the process.


Kapler, according to multiple sources, perceived Kranitz as defiant; the first-time manager and his veteran pitching coach sometimes engaged in postgame disputes — one of which escalated over a specific bullpen-management issue. The Phillies, in assembling a new front office and on-field staff, said they promised to value “diversity of thought.”


At least six Phillies sources described a pitching process that was not collaborative. “We were asked to do things based on the way they want to see it done — not what has worked before,” one Phillies pitcher said. That in itself is not an unusual coaching practice, but some believed it had been taken to an extreme.

“It’s selective,” another Phillies pitcher said of the coaching approach. “They just decide most can’t be helped.”

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby MoBettle » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:24:12

Seems great. Gold standard.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby Uncle Milty » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:24:46

Thanks.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby CFP » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:24:57

I hope they fire everyone. Kapler and Klentak need to go.

This was a funny tidbit too:

The Phillies have an algorithm that calculates a number on a 1-to-100 scale to rate every potential batter-pitcher matchup in that day’s game.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby Ace Rothstein » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:27:23

This is stuff you usually hear about after someone gets fired

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Postby The B1G Piece » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:10:53

Confirmed the clubhouse is a disaster.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby ReadingPhilly » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:14:00

maybe it just takes more than a season to effectively implement a new system. or maybe the talent isn't there. i'm not sure kranitz would've turned pivetta into a non-dunderhead.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby heyeaglefn » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:21:04

Didn't anyone watch Moneyball? Billy had a lot of enemies too lol

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Postby JUburton » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:31:25

Ace Rothstein wrote:This is stuff you usually hear about after someone gets fired
This is the stuff that gets leaked when a bunch of people in the office want the people to get fired. It alone is probably a sign of dysfunction.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby CFP » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:33:40

ReadingPhilly wrote:maybe it just takes more than a season to effectively implement a new system. or maybe the talent isn't there. i'm not sure kranitz would've turned pivetta into a non-dunderhead.


I don't want to go all FIP all the time, but he was pretty respectable at times last year. This year was just such a huge dumpster fire step back.

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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby MoBettle » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:45:56

heyeaglefn wrote:Didn't anyone watch Moneyball? Billy had a lot of enemies too lol

He won tho
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Postby Titlehungry » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:04:17

I really think they are gonna push to get Maddon here next... guess Theo wouldn't come with him, huh?
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby Brantt » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:11:57

Brutal article. Kapler is done.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby BatFlipsFTW » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:20:58

heyeaglefn wrote:Didn't anyone watch Moneyball? Billy had a lot of enemies too lol


I'm all for analytics but it seems like this team neglects making adjustments for each individual and just go with a straight one size fits all approach with the numbers.
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Re: Phillies 2019 Discussion IV: Krew? **** You!

Postby wiivile » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:25:28

it's only june

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