Could have sworn Klentak has been around more than 2 years.

JFLNYC wrote:Could have sworn Klentak has been around more than 2 years.

because it looks like he hasn't slept in five

azrider wrote:kind of curious about rebuilding the "right way". i thought the plan was solid and there are limits to the time and extent of implementation, maybe you can argue that those executing the plan may not have been up for the task for one reason or the other. sometimes things don't work out or may take a little longer but i don't think the front office did anything necessarily the wrong way. i see some tweaks that should've occurred...

I’m talking more changing the philosophical approach to building an organization across the board and developing talent. This regime has not been conducive to developing talent in the majors or minor leagues. Me personally I think an outside set of eyes would do this organization some good and rebuilding everything from the scouting department to player development. I mean it says a lot when several players this season like Kingery and Eflin after good stretches of play publicly said the key to them figuring things out was getting away from what the organization was preaching and focusing on what they do best.

Do I think Klentak and MacPhail are the worst executives in baseball? No, but that’s not exactly setting the bar high, we should be aiming to be the Yankees, Dodgers, Astros, etc. Not just “decent enough”

We’ll see what happens.

Ignoring the starting rotation probably wasn't the best idea. I think they certainly got unlucky with the bullpen but I know there is an argument that throwing that much money into the bullpen is dumb.

Middleton is obviously hunkered down and trying come up with another half dozen "Special Assistant to the ____" jobs to exile these guys to.

Shadow wrote:This may not be the best endorsement of Middleton as an owner, but he is undecided on who he is keeping and firing and he's still deciding as we speak.

The good news is he may clean house and rebuild this thing the right way.

The bad news is he should already know what he wants to do by now, and you gotta worry about too many influences in his ear.

i wish we had the equivalent of ron Jaworski when the eagles did their hiring of Pederson to help with their search

Why? Jaworski knew Dug for 20 years. Vouching for Dug's ability to relate to players was Jaws' contribution to the search.

I don't know, i sorta commend him for not rushing to a decision. It's easy to make bad decisions in the heat of the battle/season, but it's prudent to let things simmer and re-evaluate once the flight has ended.

Andrew Friedman is at the end of his five year deal with the Dodgers and hasn’t been extended yet. Interested?

rolex wrote:Andrew Friedman is at the end of his five year deal with the Dodgers and hasn’t been extended yet. Interested?

Yes would be v interested.

laf837 wrote:

rolex wrote:Andrew Friedman is at the end of his five year deal with the Dodgers and hasn’t been extended yet. Interested?

Yes would be v interested.

Back up the brinks truck

Would pretty funny if he came here after not wanting to sign Harper long term.

Why stay in LA when he can come here and have Middleton micromanage everything he does.

bleh wrote:Why stay in LA when he can come here and have Middleton micromanage everything he does.

And probably get less money!

buncha impatient bystanders is all

heyeaglefn wrote:

bleh wrote:Why stay in LA when he can come here and have Middleton micromanage everything he does.

And probably get less money!

Hazleton

Shadow wrote:This may not be the best endorsement of Middleton as an owner, but he is undecided on who he is keeping and firing and he's still deciding as we speak.

The good news is he may clean house and rebuild this thing the right way.

The bad news is he should already know what he wants to do by now, and you gotta worry about too many influences in his ear.

Well all know how much you love a good rebuild the right way Brett.

mtcal wrote:

Shadow wrote:This may not be the best endorsement of Middleton as an owner, but he is undecided on who he is keeping and firing and he's still deciding as we speak.

The good news is he may clean house and rebuild this thing the right way.

The bad news is he should already know what he wants to do by now, and you gotta worry about too many influences in his ear.

i wish we had the equivalent of ron Jaworski when the eagles did their hiring of Pederson to help with their search

Yeah that's the missing piece

Werthless wrote:https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/6/3/18644512/mvp-machine-how-houston-astros-became-great-scouting

The Astros do it well, have bought in through the entire org, and make it digestible for the players to act on. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Pitch sequencing, clustering to aid with pitching matchups, spin/grip analysis to alter pitch effectiveness, pitch tunneling, swing plane analysis... There is a ton of information out there to improve the "slow" decisions that are made with each pitch, as well as aid in the coaching aspect of what needs to be worked on between starts or in the batting cage.

So yes, we should be looking at other orgs for help.

This was a good, although long, read.

One thing that I learned is that if Morton had come to (or stayed in) Philly, he would not have had the same success as he is having in Houston.

ek wrote:I dont know wtf is going on

-mouthbreathers upset gabe didn't get fired with the rest of everyone who got fired right away
-Middleton apparently *too* involved with decisions on team and is a flip flopper
-no one appears to like klentak
-no one appears to like macphail
-other side of coin for gabe argument is he had crap to work with