Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

by **swishnicholson** » Thu Jul 18, 2019 22:30:06

Smew Dryly

by **CFP** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 07:34:27

Slowhand wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:Steaks also reported the Phils have talked to Texas about Minor, SF about Bumgarner and Detroit about Boyd, and have "investigated the possibility" of Greinke

We already have one unlikable pitcher in Arrieta, I'm not sure I can stomach another one in Bumgarner.

Grab Greinke and we'll have the all-unlikable staff

by **Squire** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 08:15:52

Heyman says we signed LHP Drew Smyly

by **Bill McNeal** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 08:31:14

Squire wrote:Heyman says we signed LHP Drew Smyly

by **Brantt** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 08:39:56

Can't hurt. But the guy never has recovered from TJ surgery.

by **Rockinghorse** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 09:01:32

Whose spot does he even take in rotation? I guess Vince since they previously said he was being re-cast as a reliever. But NP hasn't shown that he's back from his horrific month, and even Eflin has been shaky.

Sadly doesn't really matter as this will likely be a revolving door all season

by **BatFlipsFTW** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:10:55

JFLNYC wrote:Anxiously awaiting “kicking the tires” quotes.

And the "take a flyer on him"

by **azrider** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:13:38

i prefer the "throwing shit at the wall" personally.

by **Grotewold** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:34:17

the worst at-this-point-of-the-season statistics I've ever seen

by **JFLNYC** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:50:59

The term “scraping the bottom of the barrel” comes to mind.

by **BigEd76** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:12:39

jonmorosi
#Phillies have shown interest in Marcus Stroman, who is expected to pitch before a large gathering of scouts in Detroit this evening. @MLB @MLBNetwork

Pretty sure the scouts were there for the next Phils series anyway

by **Ace Rothstein** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 16:04:49

Smyly is starting Sunday if he passes his physical, VV starting Wednesday in Detroit, Pivetta to the pen

by **swishnicholson** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 16:27:07

Grotewold wrote:the worst at-this-point-of-the-season statistics I've ever seen

52 ks in 51 innings isn't bad. I haven't done the math, but I'm guessing 19 hrs is.

by **Slowhand** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 17:06:48

swishnicholson wrote:
Grotewold wrote:the worst at-this-point-of-the-season statistics I've ever seen

52 ks in 51 innings isn't bad. I haven't done the math, but I'm guessing 19 hrs is.

Sounds like he’ll fit right in.

by **Monkeyboy** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 17:16:29

What a joke. With all the pitchers who were available in the offseason on one year deals, and the few that have been signed or traded for during the season, we end up with the guy with an ERA over 8. And he's plugged right into the rotation, of course, just so he can show everyone how much he sucks.

With all the options that were available over the last 9 months, this should piss people off. He's clearly not back from the injury, if he ever will be. I don't know what they think will happen. If he pitches well, it's just dumb luck. This is like signing delmon young and thinking he will finally put it together.

by **MattFoley** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 17:33:18

How about " taking a flyer at scraping the **** off the bottom of the tires on the wall"?

This guy appears to be bad enough his signing deserves some creativity.

by **The B1G Piece** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 17:35:15

Monkeyboy wrote:What a joke. With all the pitchers who were available in the offseason on one year deals, and the few that have been signed or traded for during the season, we end up with the guy with an ERA over 8. And he's plugged right into the rotation, of course, just so he can show everyone how much he sucks.

With all the options that were available over the last 9 months, this should piss people off. He's clearly not back from the injury, if he ever will be. I don't know what they think will happen. If he pitches well, it's just dumb luck. This is like signing delmon young and thinking he will finally put it together.

Dallas Keuchel has a 5.23 FIP and K-Rate 1 per inning lower than Jake Arrieta.

by **bleh** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 17:39:56

He's been decent in his last 2 minors stars, 0 BBs and 10 Ks in 9 IP. https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... &year=2019 If he had control issues and got them sorted out he might be good. And even if he is what he was last year it's better than what Pivetta has been.

edit: actually that's missing his last start from 3 days ago for some reason, http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?si ... g/2019/ALL

by **smitty** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 17:43:31

The B1G Piece wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:What a joke. With all the pitchers who were available in the offseason on one year deals, and the few that have been signed or traded for during the season, we end up with the guy with an ERA over 8. And he's plugged right into the rotation, of course, just so he can show everyone how much he sucks.

With all the options that were available over the last 9 months, this should piss people off. He's clearly not back from the injury, if he ever will be. I don't know what they think will happen. If he pitches well, it's just dumb luck. This is like signing delmon young and thinking he will finally put it together.

Dallas Keuchel has a 5.23 FIP and K-Rate 1 per inning lower than Jake Arrieta.

We couldda got Kimbrel. He's been kinda stinky so far.

by **mcare89** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 17:46:24

Monkeyboy wrote:What a joke. With all the pitchers who were available in the offseason on one year deals, and the few that have been signed or traded for during the season, we end up with the guy with an ERA over 8. And he's plugged right into the rotation, of course, just so he can show everyone how much he sucks.

With all the options that were available over the last 9 months, this should piss people off. He's clearly not back from the injury, if he ever will be. I don't know what they think will happen. If he pitches well, it's just dumb luck. This is like signing delmon young and thinking he will finally put it together.

The list of pitchers who signed one-year deals this year is actually pretty terrible, there's like two guys out there that represent even a slight upgrade over the Phillies bottom of the rotation guys.

I really don't care about the signing one way or another, it's a no-cost band-aid, if it works, great, if he gets blown up, well, so was everyone else, dump him and go find someone else.

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