Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Soren » Wed May 30, 2018 13:27:59

might break the F5 on my work, home office and laptop keyboards.
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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Wed May 30, 2018 13:29:00

Squire wrote:Don't know how this affects things one way or the other but Gabrielle Union denies being at the Beijing Olympics


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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Brantt » Wed May 30, 2018 13:34:25

The Jerry = eric jr thread on reddit is interesting.

Reasons why:

Calls himself an "old man" in a lot of his twitter posts

Mentions Jesus / god a ton. From his wiki: "Colangelo has spoken about his faith saying, "The first priority in life is to have that relationship with Jesus Christ. So your faith is number one. ... God [has] a plan for my life."

When all the other burner accounts went private, Eric Jr's did not. Guessing the others were truly Bryan's, but Eric Jr. was Jerry.

From the Ringer: "One of the few non-basketball accounts followed by Eric jr is an Arizona man named Lawrence “LB” Bain. Bain’s Twitter bio lists his location as Paradise Valley, a small town in Maricopa County, Arizona, that is five miles from the address of JDM Partners LLC, a financial company where Jerry Colangelo is a partner." It's much more likely that Jerry would follow this man, not Bryan...

Also from the Ringer: "Eric jr went on the attack. “I sat NEXT to you and [Dwyane Wade] at Beijing Olympics and saw you both being rude nasty to little kid fan,” the account said. “Had to eat yr pizza. … You showed no respect to this little kid, who are you to stand on high grounds? Never looked at DW the same after that.” During the 2008 Olympics, Jerry Colangelo, then the managing director of the U.S. men’s national basketball team, was in Beijing." JERRY was there, not Bryan. It's much more likely he was sitting next to Dwayne Wade as the managing director of the Olympic team.

All the other connections (e.g. watching his Grandson's Chicago basketball team, defending Brian, criticizing Hinkie / Masai, etc.) all still make complete sense with Jerry instead of Brian.

Last but not least, rearrange "Eric Jr" --> "Jerri C". Okay that one's a stretch, but still.

Honestly I think it's much more likely that Eric Jr. is Jerry Colangelo, trying to stick up for his son on Twitter. It's already in evidence that he'll go to great lengths for BC (e.g. snaking him into the organization), this wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Grotewold » Wed May 30, 2018 13:35:00

heyeaglefn wrote:I think he is saying the Ringer was being played and not knowing the guy was setting them up.


But Detrick was the one interacting with him/her. It would be on him too. And he would have said whatever he knew about the source to Ryan and Simmons.
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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby CFP » Wed May 30, 2018 13:35:25

I wonder if it’s feasible that they’re sharing the account

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Wed May 30, 2018 13:36:43

Since 7am I've gone from thinking it was: Bryan, a hacker, Bryan, Mattia (BTW what f'in kinda name is this), Bryan, disgruntled Sixer employee and now I'm sure it was Jerry!

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Grotewold » Wed May 30, 2018 13:38:14

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:Since 7am I've gone from thinking it was: Bryan, a hacker, Bryan, Mattia (BTW what f'in kinda name is this), Bryan, disgruntled Sixer employee and now I'm sure it was Jerry!


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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Bucky » Wed May 30, 2018 13:38:34

maybe the evil tweets are from an iphone and the apologetic ones are from android

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby heyeaglefn » Wed May 30, 2018 13:40:21

Grotewold wrote:
heyeaglefn wrote:I think he is saying the Ringer was being played and not knowing the guy was setting them up.


But Detrick was the one interacting with him/her. It would be on him too.

Yeah if he was sharing more than he should have been to the person who pointed it out that would be bad.

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Grotewold » Wed May 30, 2018 13:46:29

heyeaglefn wrote:
Grotewold wrote:
heyeaglefn wrote:I think he is saying the Ringer was being played and not knowing the guy was setting them up.


But Detrick was the one interacting with him/her. It would be on him too.

Yeah if he was sharing more than he should have been to the person who pointed it out that would be bad.


Another unlikely action from a professional news person, yeah. I would relish Simmons and Detrick being humiliated by would bet against it.

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby JFLNYC » Wed May 30, 2018 13:50:44

heyeaglefn wrote:I think he is saying the Ringer was being played and not knowing the guy was setting them up.


Right, but just speculating. It looks like it wasn’t a regular source for The Ringer. Also ask yourself where this source came from and why he decided to examine the accounts in question so thoroughly. It certainly wasn’t someone who loved Colangelo and it also looks as though he just happened to offer the story to The Ringer.
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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Grotewold » Wed May 30, 2018 13:53:36

That's probably happened to Bill Simmons thousands of times over the years, though, on top of Detrick's credentials. But you never know I guess.

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby JFLNYC » Wed May 30, 2018 13:53:55

Grotewold wrote:
heyeaglefn wrote:
Grotewold wrote:
heyeaglefn wrote:I think he is saying the Ringer was being played and not knowing the guy was setting them up.


But Detrick was the one interacting with him/her. It would be on him too.

Yeah if he was sharing more than he should have been to the person who pointed it out that would be bad.


Another unlikely action from a professional news person, yeah. I would relish Simmons and Detrick being humiliated by would bet against it.


They were clearly acting in concert with their source and had every motivation to hope the source was right.
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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Soren » Wed May 30, 2018 13:56:43

Olivia Meadows, your "emotional poltergeist"

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Grotewold » Wed May 30, 2018 13:58:33

JFLNYC wrote:They were clearly acting in concert with their source and had every motivation to hope the source was right.


I hear you, and most leakers/sources have an agenda. But it's Journalism 101 to not fall for what you're suggesting. Again, I will laugh my ass off if they did, but it's unlikely.

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby heyeaglefn » Wed May 30, 2018 14:00:53

Grotewold wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:They were clearly acting in concert with their source and had every motivation to hope the source was right.


I hear you, and most leakers/sources have an agenda. But it's Journalism 101 to not fall for what you're suggesting. Again, I will laugh my ass off if they did, but it's unlikely.

You don't think something like this is possible.

Source - Contacts Ringer with data about Twitter Accounts. Tells Ringer to stay in contact as they dig up more.
Ringer - Verifies it looks like Collars, sends Sixers questions about 2 of the accounts while telling source they are doing that.
Source - Makes all accounts private.

I think it could happen, the key is the Ringer would have to let the Source know when they were contacting the Sixers.

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby joe table » Wed May 30, 2018 14:02:19

SI writeup is good but do they have his employment contract? Cause definition usually negotiated between the parties in these cases (though there are some common formulations) so it's a bit of a stretch to assume for cause termination on play w/o the agreement

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Grotewold » Wed May 30, 2018 14:02:51

I think they would have gone back to and thoroughly vetted the leaker before contacting the Sixers. I certainly would have. As Jfly points out it would have been relatively easy to mirror the real Collars account across the other four, which they had three months to realize versus our 16 hours.

Simmons has many millions and 70-100 staffers riding on this thing.

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby Napalm » Wed May 30, 2018 14:27:09

Grotewold wrote:Anderson liked a 'gram calling Collar a fraud

actually, do any of the players like Collar?

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Re: Sixers 2018 Off Season Thread #1

Postby WilliamC » Wed May 30, 2018 14:31:32

Nobody is jumping to his defense that is for sure.
Do it again!

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