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Postby kruker » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:13:51

And give one to Rhys. He's got to want to dance too though. Can't make him sign it. For all we know they've tried.
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby heyeaglefn » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:14:43

Yeah I don't think they had to twist Kingerys arm to get this done

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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby cartersDad26 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:17:02

first thought on comparable was the Longoria deal - adjusted for inflation this is pretty darn close if not an even better deal for the Phillies. I see no downside to this deal - even if he is a complete bust, this kind of money is a blip on our radar over the length of the deal.

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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby Stripes » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:19:14

I guess I'm not using that NA spot in my one fantasy league on Kingery
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby Titlehungry » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:19:20

I think him busting isn't a major concern... it's more like how high is his ceiling... the biggest downside to me would be some serious injury
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby kruker » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:19:25

Really happy about this. With the luxury tax these days you kind of need to take these chances to compete long term. They aren't always going to work but it's huge if they do. This guarantees we have all his prime years at a very team friendly cost if he pans out. Downside is a relatively small sunk cost.
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:24:06

So the Phillies locked up a talented kid for potentially a decade and someone is worried about a precedent? This is a fantastic deal. Lock up your core now then spend big balls money in free agency and lets go
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby Slowhand » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:26:50

Sorry for presenting a different viewpoint!
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby 1 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:27:33

Titlehungry wrote:I think him busting isn't a major concern... it's more like how high is his ceiling... the biggest downside to me would be some serious injury

Especially if he’s playing 6 different positions a week.
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:27:43

Slowhand wrote:Sorry for presenting a different viewpoint!

You should be sorry. It's a stupid viewpoint
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby MoBettle » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:28:33

I have to imagine this sort of cost certainty is pretty valuable for a front office with as many medium to long term variables as the Phillies have. One less guy that you have to project his arb number out 4 years from now.
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby WilliamC » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:28:40

I like smart moves by our front office as precedent.

Kind of surprised Kingery even accepted it tbh.
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby Slowhand » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:28:46

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
Slowhand wrote:Sorry for presenting a different viewpoint!

You should be sorry. It's a stupid viewpoint


That’s rude.
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby bdj72 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:32:10

Slowhand wrote:Sorry for presenting a different viewpoint!


You're forgiven, just don't let it happen again. :lol:
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby JFLNYC » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:34:21

Stripes wrote:My only concern, and it's not really a major concern at this point given the team's payroll, is if it wouldn't be better to do this after the season starts, for luxury tax/AAV purposes. I know it's not a problem at this point, but if/when they sign Machado/harper/whoever, and Hoskins and Nola start getting expensive, it might. Not sure how big a deal that is, though.


I guarantee Klentak factored it all in.
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:34:41

WilliamC wrote:I like smart moves by our front office as precedent.

Kind of surprised Kingery even accepted it tbh.

Gotta be hard to say no to 24 million dollars before you've ever played a game. He could suck or get hurt and he's set for life. The option years are the real genius of this deal. If he's a stud, that's such an under market value deal especially with the Monopoly money that'll be spent in FA
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby Bucky » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:34:51

so it's less than one year of arietta

i'm assuming all three years are team options? if so, great move. We have control through his age 32 season.

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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:35:31

JFLNYC wrote:
Stripes wrote:My only concern, and it's not really a major concern at this point given the team's payroll, is if it wouldn't be better to do this after the season starts, for luxury tax/AAV purposes. I know it's not a problem at this point, but if/when they sign Machado/harper/whoever, and Hoskins and Nola start getting expensive, it might. Not sure how big a deal that is, though.


I guarantee Klentak factored it all in.

They probably also factored in printing money again when we return to glory
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby bdj72 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:37:11

JFLNYC wrote:
Stripes wrote:My only concern, and it's not really a major concern at this point given the team's payroll, is if it wouldn't be better to do this after the season starts, for luxury tax/AAV purposes. I know it's not a problem at this point, but if/when they sign Machado/harper/whoever, and Hoskins and Nola start getting expensive, it might. Not sure how big a deal that is, though.


I guarantee Klentak factored it all in.


He is starting to line the ducks up in a row so he knows how much the payroll will be once he signs Harper and Trout.
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Re: Phillies Sign Kingery to Six Year Deal

Postby kruker » Sun Mar 25, 2018 16:37:40

And really good for the Phillies here in not playing the B's 14 day wait game. That shit needs to end.
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