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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Feb 23, 2018 00:00:20

I’m sure we can find another backup QB. To expect that backup to perform anywhere near the level Foles did is another matter.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Titlehungry » Fri Feb 23, 2018 00:05:02

JFLNYC wrote:I’m sure we can find another backup QB. To expect that backup to perform anywhere near the level Foles did is another matter.


Nobody is probably ever gonna do what Nick Foles did this year... including Nick Foles... this year was destiny
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Feb 23, 2018 00:23:45

Maybe, maybe not. It’s about having someone with the greatest chance of success.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby wiivile » Fri Feb 23, 2018 02:47:32

Man, rewatching the Super Bowl for the 85th time, I just saw that Carrie Underwood intro video with several legendary players/quarterbacks (including Tom Brady) striking dramatic poses one-by-one. Nick Foles was among them. hahaha. love it. Nick Foles. Of course, this was before he bested the GOAT.

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Grotewold » Fri Feb 23, 2018 09:46:48

Titlehungry wrote:Thing is if we get a good offer and trade Foles we can get another decent backup QB or trust that Sudfeld will become something... pretty sure Doug has shown he can coach up a guy in his system... I wouldn't worry too much about Wentz insurance


Former backup QB Dan Orlovsky raised an interesting point on WIP, I thought.

If the Eagles love Sudfeld as much as they (DeFillipo in particular) say they do, this spring and summer with Wentz out is the *perfect* developmental opportunity.

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 01:52:25

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Warszawa wrote:Trade Wentz


You kid, but...

It would be sort of interesting to find out what you could get for Wentz. As someone already said, Wentz's style of play makes you just a little nervous he could be injury prone... and yet his performance this season makes him insanely valuable. Say the Eagles do win the SB with a strong performance from Foles... you could gamble that he is enough to keep you plenty competitive next season, and see if, say Cleveland would give up both those firsts this year and maybe one next year for Wentz, and throw in a 2 or 3 besides. Or what would the Jets, who have never had a truly franchise QB since Namath and who play in the world's biggest media market, be willing to pay for a guy who has proved he is the real deal? QBs are basically equivalent to that one guy who can totally by himself dominate the court - the LeBrons of the world - and it's conceivable a team desperate enough would be willing to give you the sun, moon, and stars for Wentz, all the draft picks basically. You could re-stock your team for years to come, find a new QB to develop, all because you have a safety valve in Foles.

Mind you, I would not do this, but it is an interesting thought question. I think I'd at least want to know what could be had.


I wrote this before the SB last year and well some asshole has to be the first to start it so it might as well be me. I am an asshole after all!

If they do run the table with Foles under center, and especially if they win a playoff game, I really don’t think it’s entirely nuts to at least kick the tires on this, except that Wentz would probably be worth less this offseason than last and there isn’t a team sitting there like the Browns with a crazy boatload of picks.

But at the same time, let’s go full hypothetical here and imagine that Foles does the seemingly impossible and COMPLETELY runs the table and they win another SB and he is the MVP AGAIN. At that point you’d have a really hard time arguing he shouldn’t be the starter here.

A problem to deal with in the one in a zillion chance it happens, I know, but again an interesting thought question.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby joe table » Mon Dec 17, 2018 02:10:33

joe table wrote:It was destined from the moment napalm made this thread. Time is a flat circle and Nick Foles just carved up a rocket scientist with DMT and Jesus

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Titlehungry » Mon Dec 17, 2018 02:13:35

Carson is your Lance Harbor... natural franchise player who is always your guy but suffered a bad injury

Nick is Jon Moxon... everyone just seems more at ease and he just goes with the flow... also never phased by the whipped cream bikini

You'd always come back to Carson if he is healthy but life with Nick is always a fun ride
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby joe table » Mon Dec 17, 2018 02:16:02

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Gimpy » Mon Dec 17, 2018 02:16:56

Wolfgang622 wrote:
Wolfgang622 wrote:
Warszawa wrote:Trade Wentz


You kid, but...

It would be sort of interesting to find out what you could get for Wentz. As someone already said, Wentz's style of play makes you just a little nervous he could be injury prone... and yet his performance this season makes him insanely valuable. Say the Eagles do win the SB with a strong performance from Foles... you could gamble that he is enough to keep you plenty competitive next season, and see if, say Cleveland would give up both those firsts this year and maybe one next year for Wentz, and throw in a 2 or 3 besides. Or what would the Jets, who have never had a truly franchise QB since Namath and who play in the world's biggest media market, be willing to pay for a guy who has proved he is the real deal? QBs are basically equivalent to that one guy who can totally by himself dominate the court - the LeBrons of the world - and it's conceivable a team desperate enough would be willing to give you the sun, moon, and stars for Wentz, all the draft picks basically. You could re-stock your team for years to come, find a new QB to develop, all because you have a safety valve in Foles.

Mind you, I would not do this, but it is an interesting thought question. I think I'd at least want to know what could be had.


I wrote this before the SB last year and well some asshole has to be the first to start it so it might as well be me. I am an asshole after all!

If they do run the table with Foles under center, and especially if they win a playoff game, I really don’t think it’s entirely nuts to at least kick the tires on this, except that Wentz would probably be worth less this offseason than last and there isn’t a team sitting there like the Browns with a crazy boatload of picks.

But at the same time, let’s go full hypothetical here and imagine that Foles does the seemingly impossible and COMPLETELY runs the table and they win another SB and he is the MVP AGAIN. At that point you’d have a really hard time arguing he shouldn’t be the starter here.

A problem to deal with in the one in a zillion chance it happens, I know, but again an interesting thought question.


If Foles wins us another Super Bowl, you have to just keep both on the roster and wait for Wentz to get injured next year and Foles to step in again as the closer.

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 02:25:49

Gimpy wrote:
Wolfgang622 wrote:
Wolfgang622 wrote:
Warszawa wrote:Trade Wentz


You kid, but...

It would be sort of interesting to find out what you could get for Wentz. As someone already said, Wentz's style of play makes you just a little nervous he could be injury prone... and yet his performance this season makes him insanely valuable. Say the Eagles do win the SB with a strong performance from Foles... you could gamble that he is enough to keep you plenty competitive next season, and see if, say Cleveland would give up both those firsts this year and maybe one next year for Wentz, and throw in a 2 or 3 besides. Or what would the Jets, who have never had a truly franchise QB since Namath and who play in the world's biggest media market, be willing to pay for a guy who has proved he is the real deal? QBs are basically equivalent to that one guy who can totally by himself dominate the court - the LeBrons of the world - and it's conceivable a team desperate enough would be willing to give you the sun, moon, and stars for Wentz, all the draft picks basically. You could re-stock your team for years to come, find a new QB to develop, all because you have a safety valve in Foles.

Mind you, I would not do this, but it is an interesting thought question. I think I'd at least want to know what could be had.


I wrote this before the SB last year and well some asshole has to be the first to start it so it might as well be me. I am an asshole after all!

If they do run the table with Foles under center, and especially if they win a playoff game, I really don’t think it’s entirely nuts to at least kick the tires on this, except that Wentz would probably be worth less this offseason than last and there isn’t a team sitting there like the Browns with a crazy boatload of picks.

But at the same time, let’s go full hypothetical here and imagine that Foles does the seemingly impossible and COMPLETELY runs the table and they win another SB and he is the MVP AGAIN. At that point you’d have a really hard time arguing he shouldn’t be the starter here.

A problem to deal with in the one in a zillion chance it happens, I know, but again an interesting thought question.


If Foles wins us another Super Bowl, you have to just keep both on the roster and wait for Wentz to get injured next year and Foles to step in again as the closer.


But this year Foles is a free agent after the season unlike Last year. You are going to lose Foles if he plays well unless you pay him like a starter. But you can’t pay him like a starter unless you start him. Do you pay him like a starter for three wins and a first round playoff exit? Nah. What about one road playoff win? Nah. Two? Hmmm. Three? Uh oh. Four?
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby mcare89 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 02:30:19

tag Foles, thank him for the rings, and trade him for a king’s ransom

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 02:32:44

mcare89 wrote:tag Foles, thank him for the rings, and trade him for a king’s ransom


You can tag A player who isn’t coming off his rookie contract? I did not know that. I figured Foles would be untaggable.

Heckuva way to thank your two time SB MVP should you get to that point.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Napalm » Mon Dec 17, 2018 02:45:02

joe table wrote:
joe table wrote:It was destined from the moment napalm made this thread. Time is a flat circle and Nick Foles just carved up a rocket scientist with DMT and Jesus

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby stevemc » Mon Dec 17, 2018 08:26:11

Technically the Eagles have the option to keep Foles. They have a $20MM option the Eagles can select which isn't palatable but if you're talking about "tagging" him anyway, there isn't a discernible difference. With that said, Foles could buy back his freedom if we choose the option by paying back a $2MM signing bonus he received this year.

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Dec 17, 2018 08:32:36

Only in Philly would we be scheming about clever ways to get rid of a QB who won back-to-back Super Bowls and replace him with a guy who can’t stay healthy.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby 06hawkalum » Mon Dec 17, 2018 08:38:11

JFLNYC wrote:Only in Philly would we be scheming about clever ways to get rid of a QB who won back-to-back Super Bowls and replace him with a guy who can’t stay healthy.


Yep, seems to me if Foles wins you back-to-back Lombardis that he, not Wentz, is your QB of the future. Last year's run can be chalked up as a fluke, but two straight?

No way.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 09:12:37

Yeah a SB win this year would mean 7 straight victories and only one at home. That’s a whole other order of magnitude than last year.

But this is getting way ahead of ourselves of course. If they are able to beat Houston and Washington (no mean feats themselves) and get the help they need, The LIKELIEST outcome of a playoff appearance this season is either a quick exit or at best a win in Chicago or LA followed by an unceremonious exit down in New Orleans.

Given that being the case, I am honestly not so sure the best outcome for the season isn’t just losing out instead of winning out, with Sudfeld maybe getting the start in Washington, to see what he can do, and getting the best draft position we can. What good is getting thumped by New Orleans again, if they make it that far? And if they were to somehow win that game, after what happened when they played down there the first time with Wentz, you’ve got a lot of stress on your hands, almost regardless of what happens afterwards.

As it is, Didinger was hinting this morning on WIP that Wentz could be theoretically medically cleared to play before the season is over, or in the playoffs. Even if the Eagles doctors are smart enough not to go on the record doing that, if Wentz somehow gets the idea that he could play, from say his private physician, and that the Eagles are electing to start Foles instead, the mess will come this season.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Mon Dec 17, 2018 09:22:19

Foles is mythical already. Any continued success is going to make this situation worse.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Dec 17, 2018 09:35:01

Let’s hope he doesn’t lead the team to another Super Bowl because then we’d have a real mess on our hands.
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