Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Bucky » Sun Dec 30, 2018 22:02:49

hey joe, please give me five different numbers from 1 to 70 and one number from 1 to 25

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Wolfgang622 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 23:51:46

Just re-read all of my old posts regarding Foles, going a-way back to the 2013 season, and dear me mine are not good or prescient in any way so I in no way exempt myself from what I am about to say, but looking back at that 2013 season what I most forgot is how much of a debate it was if Foles was or could be the "QB of the future" even while he was putting up 27/2, and how really so much of the sense that somehow he wasn't good or that it was all a mirage was really coming from the top - from Chip Kelly. Kelly never really believed in him.

Imagine if Doug had been coach THEN? Or anyone who had any sense about how to evaluate pro talent (DeSean, LeSean, Foles, etc.). I mean we may never have drafted Wentz because we never would have been in a position to because we would have been making deep playoff runs every year with Foles as QB...
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Gimpy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 15:04:05

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeGarafolo ... 75584?s=09

“Nick Foles today said he hopes he’s shown the rest of the NFL winning is not just about the QB. Asked him what he meant by that and how he, as a QB, helps facilitate that. This was his response. It’s a good one. Shows his understanding of, and approach to, being a leader”

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby gr » Tue Jan 15, 2019 15:48:47

Will enjoy the 2028 season when Nick takes over for Dug as HC.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby azrider » Tue Jan 15, 2019 15:56:55

gr wrote:Will enjoy the 2028 season when Nick takes over for Dug as HC.


going to have to pull him away from eddie v's though.

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Napalm » Tue Jan 15, 2019 16:24:57

Gimpy wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1084938547403075584?s=09

“Nick Foles today said he hopes he’s shown the rest of the NFL winning is not just about the QB. Asked him what he meant by that and how he, as a QB, helps facilitate that. This was his response. It’s a good one. Shows his understanding of, and approach to, being a leader”

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 16:54:33

I took it as he is going to renegotiate his deal to be cheap to stay in Philly because he's not that important.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 21:52:09

So long Nick, it was a pleasure.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Eem » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:56:30

Flip to Jacksonville as OC... that becomes as obvious a Foles spot as any
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby gr » Wed Jan 16, 2019 13:03:05

Eem wrote:Flip to Jacksonville as OC... that becomes as obvious a Foles spot as any


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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby thephan » Wed Jan 16, 2019 15:28:36

The Athletic has a running interview with Joe Banner about the Birds. The latest was about Foles future. It was interesting. He thinks that it is somewhat equally likely that they pick up the option, then let him buy himself out, or just let him disappear. When the pick up the option they would shop the crap out of him. He pointed out the Franchise Tag is a bad idea because it is a $24-25M cap hit. He also said that the $2M buy out was an agent mistake.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby bleh » Wed Jan 16, 2019 15:44:02

What does he mean by it being a mistake?

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby thephan » Wed Jan 16, 2019 16:32:38

bleh wrote:What does he mean by it being a mistake?


Scenario 3: Eagles pick up Foles’ option, he doesn’t void it with the $2M payback and they trade him

In this scenario, Foles’ $20 million contract for 2019 would become guaranteed on the third day of the league year (March 15).

Banner: This is certainly possible. It requires a team that’s willing to trade something of substance. It would have to be higher than the comp pick they’d get, which is likely to be at the end of the third round. And a team that is willing to give something up for somebody that is going to make $20 million for one year. Now you may say, “Well, the new team will want to negotiate an extension.” If that’s the case, Foles is better off paying the $2 million and being free to negotiate that. So although this is a possible scenario, I consider it relatively unlikely.

Kapadia: What would be the motivation for Foles to go this route? Just not having to pay back the $2 million? Is there any other motivation?


Banner: Not really. See, I view that the agent made a mistake here. If he was going to give the Eagles an option, which I don’t really understand why he did or would do, I understand he got some extra money, but it wasn’t a ton and most of it was contingent. What he should have done was force the Eagles, if they exercise the option, for the money to become guaranteed. As you know, it could become guaranteed at a later date, but it doesn’t become guaranteed when they exercise it. So that makes your question very relevant. Why would Foles leave himself in that position? And the answer is to potentially save the $2 million. But frankly, the $2 million is going to be so irrelevant in the contract that he’s going to get from somebody that I can’t imagine him allowing the Eagles to still continue to control his rights in some way.


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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Phred » Wed Jan 16, 2019 17:15:27

thephan is Shiel Kapadia!
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby traderdave » Wed Jan 16, 2019 17:44:07

Of the teams needing QB help (I guess primarily MIA, JAX, DEN and WAS), which, do you think, is the best fit for Foles?

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Jan 16, 2019 17:54:27

I’d bet money on him going to Jax now that flip is there as the oc
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby MoBettle » Wed Jan 16, 2019 19:11:19

thephan wrote:
bleh wrote:What does he mean by it being a mistake?


Scenario 3: Eagles pick up Foles’ option, he doesn’t void it with the $2M payback and they trade him

In this scenario, Foles’ $20 million contract for 2019 would become guaranteed on the third day of the league year (March 15).

Banner: This is certainly possible. It requires a team that’s willing to trade something of substance. It would have to be higher than the comp pick they’d get, which is likely to be at the end of the third round. And a team that is willing to give something up for somebody that is going to make $20 million for one year. Now you may say, “Well, the new team will want to negotiate an extension.” If that’s the case, Foles is better off paying the $2 million and being free to negotiate that. So although this is a possible scenario, I consider it relatively unlikely.

Kapadia: What would be the motivation for Foles to go this route? Just not having to pay back the $2 million? Is there any other motivation?


Banner: Not really. See, I view that the agent made a mistake here. If he was going to give the Eagles an option, which I don’t really understand why he did or would do, I understand he got some extra money, but it wasn’t a ton and most of it was contingent. What he should have done was force the Eagles, if they exercise the option, for the money to become guaranteed. As you know, it could become guaranteed at a later date, but it doesn’t become guaranteed when they exercise it. So that makes your question very relevant. Why would Foles leave himself in that position? And the answer is to potentially save the $2 million. But frankly, the $2 million is going to be so irrelevant in the contract that he’s going to get from somebody that I can’t imagine him allowing the Eagles to still continue to control his rights in some way.


BTW, theathletic.com is great and you should subscribe to read great stuff like this regularly.



Banner also noted that the Eagles would lose any comp pick in the situation where they exercised Foles' option then cut him (As opposed to a likely 3rd round comp pick if they declined the option or Foles opted out). I hadn't really considered that but it makes sense. Would be a pretty big screwup if that happened.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby rolex » Wed Jan 16, 2019 20:04:49

No worry, Howie has this thing covered. :-D

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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Wed Jan 16, 2019 20:56:44

I think he's going to Jacksonville or Arizona.
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Re: Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Postby thephan » Wed Jan 16, 2019 21:32:08

Phred wrote:thephan is Shiel Kapadia!


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