World Series 2008 Games 5.1 & 5.2 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

by **Grotewold** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 17:39:43

mozartpc27 wrote:
Grotewold wrote:Rich Hoffman just raised an interesting point: If the umps asked Charlie before the top of the 6th whether he wanted to send Cole back out for more or stop the game right then, what would he have said?

It's unfortunate about the run that was scored, but it can't be seen as anything but a positive that we got 6 rather than 5 innings with Cole, if only because we don't need to use Chad Durbin to get through regulation.

That's where I am, and I bet Charlie would have sent him back out.

Still pissed tho

by **Titlehungry** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 17:43:38

I don't get why MLB is so Rays happy... you think they'd be just as eager to see the Phils win with lots of young talented character guys such as Chase, Cole, JRoll, Ryan, Shane, etc. to promote the heck out of... from what I've seen Tampa may have some decent young talent but they are pretty much faceless and boring..

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 17:46:27

Richard Justice going off on Selig on PTI

by **CFP** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 18:05:50

Selig blaming the Phillies on Sports Center right now

by **stevelxa476** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 18:07:03

CFP wrote:Selig blaming the Phillies on Sports Center right now

What did he say?

by **CFP** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 18:08:32

"The weather report we had, and the weather report the PHILLIES had..."

With extra douchebaggy emphasis on Phillies

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 18:24:07

Bud Selig wrote:The weather report we had, and the weather report the PHILLIES had...

The Phanatic wrote:I had your mom, Bud.

by **JFLNYC** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 18:31:14

Bucky wrote:This BP dudes "source" was probably bsg.com ......

/JFLNYC

What'd I do now?

by **FTN** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 18:35:16

CFP wrote:Selig blaming the Phillies on Sports Center right now

It never ends.

by **FTN** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 18:40:25

So there were special rules in place. Silverman, Selig, and Gillick knew about them. But FOX obviously didn't. DuPuy very clearly didn't. The players didn't. The managers didn't. Everyone directly involved in a World Series game did not know the rules which were in place, and nobody in a position to alert the viewing audience in a timely fashion knew either. That is absurd.

Second, if they had this plan in place, why did they play the top of the sixth? That was not baseball. Hamels couldn't throw a curveball (Stark reported this on OTL, but check the Gameday; no curves in the 6th). Rollins couldn't field a ground ball. It's a wonder that Upton made it all the way around the bases without falling over. Burrell couldn't make a decent throw to the plate. Okay, maybe that last thing isn't so rare. But still, it is mind boggling that they played under those conditions with a clearly superior contingency plan in place.

Even worse, the Rays batted one more time in these conditions that the Phillies did. That was the whole point of the old rule (changed last year), where the score reverted back to the last full inning; if the weather is bad, both teams had to suffer equally. It's pretty obvious that the Rays benefited from this, allowing them to tie an elimination game in the World Series because baseball has an incompetent commissioner.

http://vegaswatch.net/2008/10/what-joke.html

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 18:44:12

Titlehungry wrote:I don't get why MLB is so Rays happy... you think they'd be just as eager to see the Phils win with lots of young talented character guys such as Chase, Cole, JRoll, Ryan, Shane, etc. to promote the heck out of... from what I've seen Tampa may have some decent young talent but they are pretty much faceless and boring..

Cinderella. The newish team that never before finished above last place is now in the World Serious. And because the Red Sox, Yankees, Cubbies ain't there...

by **Titlehungry** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 18:56:35

Yeah, I guess the worst to first thing is the angle but since there are 28 people in Florida that care about their team and maybe 4 or 5 in Hazleton, isn't it a better story that the usually hapless Phils with their cast of young, charismatic, talented players are on the brink of ending a 25 year Big 4 pro team curse to an end in a city with a long and storied sports history. But hey promote BJ Upton if you want... too bad Delmon 'Batman' Young and Elijah 'Minor Anger Problem' Dukes aren't still around!

by **JFLNYC** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 19:01:56

Titlehungry wrote:I don't get why MLB is so Rays happy... you think they'd be just as eager to see the Phils win with lots of young talented character guys such as Chase, Cole, JRoll, Ryan, Shane, etc. to promote the heck out of... from what I've seen Tampa may have some decent young talent but they are pretty much faceless and boring..

Longer Series = More Money.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 19:26:32

Tickets: Fans holding tickets for World Series Game 5 should use their ticket(s) for re-entry. The game is sold out.

Parking: Fans with parking passes from Monday (October 27) or receipts will be permitted to gain re-entry into the parking lots. Fans that no longer have their passes or receipts will need to pay.

Gate openings: All Citizens Bank Park gates will open at 5:30 p.m.

by **WilliamC** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 19:29:08

Not that it means much but I just wonder how many people will be in CBP tomorrow. It will just look weird I think since a lot of people that attended the first portion of the game might not be able to make it tomorrow. A shame there will be empty seats which so many would love to occupy. Or is everyone just selling their stubs?

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 19:33:42

Titlehungry wrote:Yeah, I guess the worst to first thing is the angle but since there are 28 people in Florida that care about their team and maybe 4 or 5 in Hazleton, isn't it a better story that the usually hapless Phils with their cast of young, charismatic, talented players are on the brink of ending a 25 year Big 4 pro team curse to an end in a city with a long and storied sports history. But hey promote BJ Upton if you want... too bad Delmon 'Batman' Young and Elijah 'Minor Anger Problem' Dukes aren't still around!

Well, MLB / FOX think national and not regional in terms of ad revenue and ratings. Both teams have good "storylines" that MLB and FOX can pimp for ratings. I guess they figure the Rays' Cinderella storyline is more Hollywood movie-ish and thus would have a broader national appeal.

Because of what happened, the 3 inning resumption may possibly be a ratings record breaker. I really think it will... that with all the controversy and hoopla, and since it might determine the champion (Phils win = whole ball o' wax), there will be more eyeballs watching those 3 innings than the combined series total for their dream Dodgers/Red Sox series. Even casual sports fans and folks that don't care for baseball, as it may only be about an hour or so. The suits at FOX are probably orgasmic.

by **Barry Jive** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 19:55:26

excerpt from tomorrow's box score:

Time of game: 51:36

by **lowcountry** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 20:07:18

Barry Jive wrote:excerpt from tomorrow's box score:

Time of game: 51:36

If it rains enough, we've got a shot at:

Hamels, 13 IP, 2 R, 2 ER

by **Polar Bear Phan** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 20:10:37

lowcountry wrote:
Barry Jive wrote:excerpt from tomorrow's box score:

Time of game: 51:36

If it rains enough, we've got a shot at:

Hamels (W, 2-0), 13 IP, 2 R, 2 ER

FYP

by **Monkeyboy** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 22:07:39

Can someone give me one good reason why the Phils should obey the commissioner's slotting recommendations during next year's draft?

They should break slot at every opportunity and give Selig the finger after each one.

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