World Series 2008 Game 1 Thread

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:13:31

I think the Phillies should try putting Tadahito Iguchi in a So Taguchi jersey and see if the Rays notice.

by **Bob Loblaw** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:16:15

momadance wrote:
stevemc wrote:Here's a question - how are you able to suit up in the post-season?

I saw Greg Golson in uniform last night warming up with the team. I saw Kyle Kendrick in street clothes immediately after the game. Neither are on the active roster so. . . .?

Probably because you can make roster changes in the event of an injury.

moma, that is the best icon ever.

by **momadance** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:17:15

Bob Loblaw wrote:moma, that is the best icon ever.

Haha! Someone sent it to me last night on my phone. My first thought was "avatar".

by **Marion** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:20:51

by **JFLNYC** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:22:38

Like that Man Love stuff do ya, Marion?

by **Marion** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:28:49

Go, go gadget legs...

by **usctrojans31** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:41:02

mozartpc27 wrote:I think the Phillies should try putting Tadahito Iguchi in a So Taguchi jersey and see if the Rays notice.

I laughed out loud at that one.

by **Bob Loblaw** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:59:18

usctrojans31 wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:I think the Phillies should try putting Tadahito Iguchi in a So Taguchi jersey and see if the Rays notice.

I laughed out loud at that one.

Better yet, let's kidnap and drug - ala Naked Gun - Aki Imamura and put him in a Soso uni.

by **BrianOrange** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:52:14

What were the Daily News headlines today? Website only showing the "regular" sports section image. Not the special World Series sections.

by **stevemc** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 13:16:53

check out the Keith Law chat on ESPN. It's very philly centric (although mostly unflattering) 15 minutes in:

Keith Law: (1:03 PM ET ) I bet I could throw a left-handed slider and get Ryan Howard to swing and miss ... and I'm right-handed.

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Nathan (Minnesota): Was that a balk last night? Sure looked like it to me.

Keith Law: (1:04 PM ET ) Of course it was. Tim Welke had one job there - watch the pitcher - and he blew it. UMP FAIL. It does obscure the more serious question, which is: where the hell was Pena going?

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Seth (SF): Re Jason Donald: The guy is mashing in the AFL, and hit 14 dingers in around 350 ABs in AA. Especially given the Phils' power up the middle, are you telling me it would be a mistake to play him at 3B just because he might not project to be a 30 HR hitter?

Keith Law: (1:06 PM ET ) That's not quite what I said. First of all, Donald's value is highest to a team willing to use him at the toughest defensive position he can play - certainly 2b and probably ss. Using him at 3b instead of trading him to a team that will put him in the middle infield, especially given the brutal market for FA infielders this year, is a loss of value. Second, the fact that Utley is so good at second base does not mean the Phils can just accept less production at a corner spot. You're giving back some of what you gain by having Utley. That's not saying playing Donald there is a "mistake," but that it's not optimal.

Jeff, Philly: How's this for an idea that could never happen. A team can only sell as many tickets to a World Series game as they averaged in attendance throughout the year. So by this rule the Ray's would only be able to sell 15,000 or so tickets to their World Series games. It's embarrassing that this team got no support in the regular season, even as it was clear they were legit.

Keith Law: (1:09 PM ET ) I just looked at the Philly schedule for 1993 ... lot of sub-30K crowds there throughout the season, and some down towards 20K in the first month or two.

Matt (Philly): Not to start a fight, but what exactly is the weak side of the Phillies roster?

Keith Law: (1:13 PM ET ) The back of their lineup and spots 2+ in their rotation.

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 13:22:01

I want to kill him.

by **my cousin mose** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 13:22:41

stevemc wrote:check out the Keith Law chat on ESPN. It's very philly centric (although mostly unflattering) 15 minutes in:

Keith Law: (1:03 PM ET ) I bet I could throw a left-handed slider and get Ryan Howard to swing and miss ... and I'm right-handed.

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Nathan (Minnesota): Was that a balk last night? Sure looked like it to me.

Keith Law: (1:04 PM ET ) Of course it was. Tim Welke had one job there - watch the pitcher - and he blew it. UMP FAIL. It does obscure the more serious question, which is: where the hell was Pena going?

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Seth (SF): Re Jason Donald: The guy is mashing in the AFL, and hit 14 dingers in around 350 ABs in AA. Especially given the Phils' power up the middle, are you telling me it would be a mistake to play him at 3B just because he might not project to be a 30 HR hitter?

Keith Law: (1:06 PM ET ) That's not quite what I said. First of all, Donald's value is highest to a team willing to use him at the toughest defensive position he can play - certainly 2b and probably ss. Using him at 3b instead of trading him to a team that will put him in the middle infield, especially given the brutal market for FA infielders this year, is a loss of value. Second, the fact that Utley is so good at second base does not mean the Phils can just accept less production at a corner spot. You're giving back some of what you gain by having Utley. That's not saying playing Donald there is a "mistake," but that it's not optimal.

Jeff, Philly: How's this for an idea that could never happen. A team can only sell as many tickets to a World Series game as they averaged in attendance throughout the year. So by this rule the Ray's would only be able to sell 15,000 or so tickets to their World Series games. It's embarrassing that this team got no support in the regular season, even as it was clear they were legit.

Keith Law: (1:09 PM ET ) I just looked at the Philly schedule for 1993 ... lot of sub-30K crowds there throughout the season, and some down towards 20K in the first month or two.

Matt (Philly): Not to start a fight, but what exactly is the weak side of the Phillies roster?

Keith Law: (1:13 PM ET ) The back of their lineup and spots 2+ in their rotation.

thanks, steve. this wouldn't be a video-chat, would it? i'm just curious if keith is wearing a mets or dodgers jersey while he's "analyzing"

by **Barry Jive** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 13:24:47

I thought '93 set attendance records. What the hell is he talking about

by **FTN** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 13:37:56

ek wrote:that's some poster's on this board's hero right there. think about that

Law and Neyer are 50x smarter than anyone else at ESPN. They are numbers guys. The numbers favor Tampa in this series. What else were you expecting?

by **my cousin mose** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 13:39:57

isn't there some celebrity phillies phan that we can dig up to combat the media onslaught of dick vitale i've had to endure today? darryl hall & john oates? bill cosby? somebody?

by **TenuredVulture** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 13:40:36

my cousin mose wrote:isn't there some celebrity phillies phan that we can dig up to combat the media onslaught of dick vitale i've had to endure today? darryl hall & john oates? bill cosby? somebody?

Or even Alito. Or Roberts. Anyway, one of those guys is a fan.

by **JFLNYC** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 13:44:12

Barry Jive wrote:I thought '93 set attendance records. What the hell is he talking about

They "only" drew 3,137,674 (4th in the league). Yeah, Keith, must have been a lot of sparse crowds that year.

It really is astounding. The Phils win the NL East with the second best record in the league (and 5th in all of MLB), easily dispense of both the Brewers (3-1) and Dodgers (4-1), win the 1st game of the WS (bringing their post-season record to 8-2) and all any of the analysts talk about is their weaknesses (back of the rotation, bottom of the lineup), the fact that neither Rollins nor Howard is producing, the LOB and runners left is scoring position, etc.

It just doesn't occur to them that the fact that the Phils keep winning, despite their limitations, means they're a great team; one that is not reliant on one or two players to carry the team and one which can win games in any number of ways, from the HR to manufacturing runs to good pitching to good defense.

The Phils are the Rodney Dangerfield of MLB. I guarantee that when the Phils win the WS, all the post-series chatter will focus on how they managed to win almost in spite of themselves.

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 13:48:53

JFLNYC wrote:The Phils are the Rodney Dangerfield of MLB. I guarantee that when the Phils win the WS, all the post-series chatter will focus on how they managed to win almost in spite of themselves.

Welcome to being a Giants fan for the last 9 months. It's about 80% fun, 20% infuriating.

by **stevemc** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 14:03:34

Someone pointed out the attendance issue and he responded:

Bill (Philly): Yea the 1993 Phillies wound up drawing over three million fans while the Rays got 1.8 million. I guess that's about the same though because of those 20-30,000 fan crowds early in the year.

Keith Law: (1:23 PM ET ) Philadelphia MSA population in 1993: 5.07 million. Tampa-St. Pete MSA population in 2007: 2.72 million.

So then maybe Tampa just doesn't deserve a team??!!

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 14:08:42

JFLNYC wrote:I guarantee that when the Phils win the WS, all the post-series chatter will focus on how they managed to win almost in spite of themselves.

Too much credit. The story will be "Rays Cheated out of First WS Title by Umpires, Lady Luck"

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