Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Thread

Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Napalm » Tue Jul 15, 2014 09:43:00

not sure, but that bryant reeves lookin fella on cleveland last night was throwing his weight around all night

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Ace Rothstein » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:28:15

Napalm wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:noel had 6 boards last night. will he still be completely incapable of rebounding in the nba? just need to know for when im talking with friends.

he's a beanpole, but i think his positioning is the biggest issue. he just looks like a baby deer out there sometimes. give him time to be great




Yeah he looks lost going for rebounds, but his offensive game and shot blocking/altering has been really good

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Napalm » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:33:17

his offensive game has realllly surprised. he's gonna get lots of looks in this offense because there's pretty much no one else. Gumbys got handles too, big men are gonna have a tough time keeping up with his speed.

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:35:02

I think he'll be comparable impact wise to Noah.

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:35:28

on which end?
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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:37:24

Just overall. Think he'll be a little better in some areas and a little worse in other.

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:40:15

I'd call that a successful pick, then.

I also see that, but maybe that's just because bodywise it's who I hope he grows into. A guy with Noah's presence and awareness on D would really help what Brown's trying to do. The guards could start to move further out and the entire floor will be extended.
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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Bucky » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:40:23

OK WHICH ONE OF YOU CHODES IS THIS

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Napalm » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:42:45

pacino wrote:I'd call that a successful pick, then.

I also see that, but maybe that's just because bodywise it's who I hope he grows into. A guy with Noah's presence and awareness on D would really help what Brown's trying to do. The guards could start to move further out and the entire floor will be extended.

noah is a heavy body in the post, just a true defender of the paint. Noel is a great shot blocker/alterer, but he isn't necessarily holding ground like Noah unless he puts on some more muscle. Nerlens is just his own breed of bouncy. Reminds me of a rich mans Ratliff. But impact wise, I absolutely agree

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:47:40

Napalm wrote:
pacino wrote:I'd call that a successful pick, then.

I also see that, but maybe that's just because bodywise it's who I hope he grows into. A guy with Noah's presence and awareness on D would really help what Brown's trying to do. The guards could start to move further out and the entire floor will be extended.

noah is a heavy body in the post, just a true defender of the paint. Noel is a great shot blocker/alterer, but he isn't necessarily holding ground like Noah unless he puts on some more muscle. Nerlens is just his own breed of bouncy. Reminds me of a rich mans Ratliff. But impact wise, I absolutely agree

What was Noah's weight out of college? At Florida he was pretty sparse. NN def is skinnier, but not by that much. He needs to beef up his legs, is all.
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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Napalm » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:51:41

pacino wrote:
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pacino wrote:I'd call that a successful pick, then.

I also see that, but maybe that's just because bodywise it's who I hope he grows into. A guy with Noah's presence and awareness on D would really help what Brown's trying to do. The guards could start to move further out and the entire floor will be extended.

noah is a heavy body in the post, just a true defender of the paint. Noel is a great shot blocker/alterer, but he isn't necessarily holding ground like Noah unless he puts on some more muscle. Nerlens is just his own breed of bouncy. Reminds me of a rich mans Ratliff. But impact wise, I absolutely agree

What was Noah's weight out of college? At Florida he was pretty sparse. NN def is skinnier, but not by that much. He needs to beef up his legs, is all.

funny enough, as i was reading up on Nerlens, i see a few mentions of Noah.

At the next level, Noel's relatively high center of gravity will make establishing deep post position difficult. When he's pushed too far from the basket, he's close to useless offensively, although he did do a decent job as a passer out of the high post this season.

It's definitely a stretch to think of a guy like Larry Sanders as a franchise big man right now. Noel is already stronger, younger, more athletic, and better with the ball in his hands, but the slight frame and unrefined offensive game point to Sanders more than somebody like Kevin Garnett or Joakim Noah, who came into the league with a somewhat similar build.


also

NBA scout Tony Barone says Noel's ceiling is a Joakim Noah-esque player, with a floor of Larry Sanders.

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Gimpy » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:58:57

pacino wrote:
Napalm wrote:
pacino wrote:I'd call that a successful pick, then.

I also see that, but maybe that's just because bodywise it's who I hope he grows into. A guy with Noah's presence and awareness on D would really help what Brown's trying to do. The guards could start to move further out and the entire floor will be extended.

noah is a heavy body in the post, just a true defender of the paint. Noel is a great shot blocker/alterer, but he isn't necessarily holding ground like Noah unless he puts on some more muscle. Nerlens is just his own breed of bouncy. Reminds me of a rich mans Ratliff. But impact wise, I absolutely agree

What was Noah's weight out of college? At Florida he was pretty sparse. NN def is skinnier, but not by that much. He needs to beef up his legs, is all.


223 at the combine. Nerlens is a hair shorter than Noah with much longer arms.

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Gimpy » Tue Jul 15, 2014 13:01:04

Also, Noah was the best center in the league this year and an All NBA first teamer.

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 15, 2014 13:04:44

Gimpy wrote:Also, Noah was the best center in the league this year and an All NBA first teamer.

that's why i'm salivating at the comp. that's all.
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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Jul 15, 2014 13:25:28

if they wanted to...

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Following up on @AminESPN's comments on Eric Bledsoe's market drying up, Sixers only team I see with room to make max offer to him now.

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby joe table » Tue Jul 15, 2014 13:27:00

eh. same concerns about fit with mcw. and does he have surplus asset value at 15mm AAV?

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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby td11 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 13:27:14

man i love watching bledsoe
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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Barry Jive » Tue Jul 15, 2014 13:27:35

I like that Noah's racial composition keeps him immune from only being compared to white guys
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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby td11 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 13:33:47

joe table wrote:eh. same concerns about fit with mcw. and does he have surplus asset value at 15mm AAV?


valid concern but his 3P% last year (35.7% on 3.3 attempts)was encouraging. plus he's a great finisher at the rim and defender (maybe even ELITE).

his shot chart last year wasn't atrocious and his FT% seems to be decent

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but yeah, one of he or MCW would have to decently improve his jumper in order for this to work
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Re: Tanking Is Bad and LeBron Is Good: A Sixers/LeBron Threa

Postby Youseff » Tue Jul 15, 2014 13:36:51

finding a back court partner with MCW is proving to be somewhat of a challenge
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