mcare89 wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

mcare89 wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

mcare89 wrote:So, here's my read on the situation.

The Sixers and Cavs are playing chicken right now. I think the Cavs still want to draft Embiid. Tellem is trying to steer Orlando and Utah out of the picture, but Philly is the wild card because Hinkie doesn't care if Embiid plays this year. Philly is trying to convince Cleveland that if they trade down any further than 3, they aren't getting Embiid, because the Sixers will pick him. (Whether they actually will or not, I don't know.) So for Cleveland, it comes down to whether they're going to risk losing Embiid to add Derrick Favors and 23, or whether they take what Philly's offering and call it a day and just take Embiid at 3.

Unless the Sixers wanted Embiid all along.

If the Sixers wanted Embiid all along, I feel like the trade talks with Cleveland would have been pretty short prior to Embiid's injury, and according to pretty much every source out there, they were not.

Pretty much every source says nothing about whether the talks were long, short or anything I'm between.

I don't think there would have been talks at all is my point.

Hinkie: We're interested in trading up to #1?
Cleveland: Interesting. Who are you trading up to pick?
Hinkie: Embiid.
Cleveland: Well, we're picking Embiid.
Hinkie: OK. Worth a shot.

End of conversation.

But it's whatever, I'm not interested in yet another trade semantics debate.

JFLNYC wrote:

mcare89 wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

mcare89 wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

mcare89 wrote:So, here's my read on the situation.

The Sixers and Cavs are playing chicken right now. I think the Cavs still want to draft Embiid. Tellem is trying to steer Orlando and Utah out of the picture, but Philly is the wild card because Hinkie doesn't care if Embiid plays this year. Philly is trying to convince Cleveland that if they trade down any further than 3, they aren't getting Embiid, because the Sixers will pick him. (Whether they actually will or not, I don't know.) So for Cleveland, it comes down to whether they're going to risk losing Embiid to add Derrick Favors and 23, or whether they take what Philly's offering and call it a day and just take Embiid at 3.

Unless the Sixers wanted Embiid all along.

If the Sixers wanted Embiid all along, I feel like the trade talks with Cleveland would have been pretty short prior to Embiid's injury, and according to pretty much every source out there, they were not.

Pretty much every source says nothing about whether the talks were long, short or anything I'm between.

I don't think there would have been talks at all is my point.

Hinkie: We're interested in trading up to #1?
Cleveland: Interesting. Who are you trading up to pick?
Hinkie: Embiid.
Cleveland: Well, we're picking Embiid.
Hinkie: OK. Worth a shot.

End of conversation.

But it's whatever, I'm not interested in yet another trade semantics debate.

Apparently you are.

Barry Jive wrote:I get what you're saying but I read Ford's "trust me" in the mock draft as more of a testimony of the value of the guys he was "drafting"

danrosz wrote:It really does seem odd that Ford and Simmons have been saying since December that everyone in the NBA knows that Wiggins is at the top of the Sixers board. Hinkie is a man that said " don't think we will ever be a team that talks about the very next thing we're going to do. That is giving an advantage to the other 29 competing teams."

Anyway, is Mitch McGary going to drop to the second round? Worth the risk if he drops that far. Loved him before he fucked up his back.

CalvinBall wrote:The LB guys are clueless. Please stop.

mcare89 wrote:I think McGary has an outside shot at getting to 32, but there was a report last week (I can't remember who it was, but it was somebody semi-credible at least) that said there was indications McGary had a promise in hand from a team in the late 1st.

Barry Jive wrote:

mcare89 wrote:I think McGary has an outside shot at getting to 32, but there was a report last week (I can't remember who it was, but it was somebody semi-credible at least) that said there was indications McGary had a promise in hand from a team in the late 1st.

Thunder maybe? Remember seeing they'd had a guarantee to a Euro who dropped out

I also love McGary at 32 so mark the date, me and danrosz agreed on something.

JFLNYC wrote:Wiggins' analytics don't come anywhere near matching his hype, which is another way of saying he may be overvalued. Doesn't really smell like a Hinkie move to me, but what do I know?

Barry Jive wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:Wiggins' analytics don't come anywhere near matching his hype, which is another way of saying he may be overvalued. Doesn't really smell like a Hinkie move to me, but what do I know?

not going to speak to the relevance of college WARP given the vast differences between college systems but Kevin Pelton did note Khem Birch as a high-WARP 2nd round guy that might fit the Sixers' M.O.

Barry Jive wrote:

mcare89 wrote:I think McGary has an outside shot at getting to 32, but there was a report last week (I can't remember who it was, but it was somebody semi-credible at least) that said there was indications McGary had a promise in hand from a team in the late 1st.

Thunder maybe? Remember seeing they'd had a guarantee to a Euro who dropped out

I also love McGary at 32 so mark the date, me and danrosz agreed on something.