by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:25:31
Ace Rothstein wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Ford/Goodman live tweeting a mock draft and this scenario arose@goodmanespn
Trade offer: Chicago's Gar Forman offers No. 16 and No. 19 to Philly for McDermott??
Really need it to be Thursday.
not sure i trade 10 for 16 and 19
by joe table » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:39:51
Gimpy wrote:Chad Ford and Jeff Goodman (who?) are doing a mock draft on Twitter. So far, Ford has drafted us Exum, traded MCW for the 7 and drafted Vonleh, drafted McBuckets at 10 (actually, Goodman made the tenth pick), and then traded McBuckets for both Bulls picks (16 and 19) after Goodman made the offer and Philly fans pushed for it.
He just took Saric with 16.
by mcare89 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:40:57
JFLNYC wrote:mcare89 wrote:So, here's my read on the situation.
The Sixers and Cavs are playing chicken right now. I think the Cavs still want to draft Embiid. Tellem is trying to steer Orlando and Utah out of the picture, but Philly is the wild card because Hinkie doesn't care if Embiid plays this year. Philly is trying to convince Cleveland that if they trade down any further than 3, they aren't getting Embiid, because the Sixers will pick him. (Whether they actually will or not, I don't know.) So for Cleveland, it comes down to whether they're going to risk losing Embiid to add Derrick Favors and 23, or whether they take what Philly's offering and call it a day and just take Embiid at 3.
Unless the Sixers wanted Embiid all along.
by PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:41:43
Gimpy wrote:Ace Rothstein wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Ford/Goodman live tweeting a mock draft and this scenario arose@goodmanespn
Trade offer: Chicago's Gar Forman offers No. 16 and No. 19 to Philly for McDermott??
Really need it to be Thursday.
not sure i trade 10 for 16 and 19
The last thing we need in this draft is to move back and accumulate more picks. I'd actually really like McDermott if we had Exum and Vonleh (RIP MCW). Noel, Vonleh, McD, ???, Exum would be a pretty fun lineup next season.
by mcare89 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:41:45
Gimpy wrote:Ace Rothstein wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Ford/Goodman live tweeting a mock draft and this scenario arose@goodmanespn
Trade offer: Chicago's Gar Forman offers No. 16 and No. 19 to Philly for McDermott??
Really need it to be Thursday.
not sure i trade 10 for 16 and 19
The last thing we need in this draft is to move back and accumulate more picks. I'd actually really like McDermott if we had Exum and Vonleh (RIP MCW). Noel, Vonleh, McD, ???, Exum would be a pretty fun lineup next season.
by joe table » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:41:53
by The Dude » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:42:18
by PhillyPhan » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:42:35
joe table wrote:Gimpy wrote:Chad Ford and Jeff Goodman (who?) are doing a mock draft on Twitter. So far, Ford has drafted us Exum, traded MCW for the 7 and drafted Vonleh, drafted McBuckets at 10 (actually, Goodman made the tenth pick), and then traded McBuckets for both Bulls picks (16 and 19) after Goodman made the offer and Philly fans pushed for it.
He just took Saric with 16.
not enough trade downs. hinkie smhs
by PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:46:31
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:47:43
mcare89 wrote:I disagree. You can always use more picks. If the board doesn't break their way at 10, I'd definitely be in favor of them trading back and picking up Saric and another piece instead of just sitting at 10.
by joe table » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:50:33
North Carolina State's T.J. Warren ranks as the highest usage player in this draft class averaging 23.5 possessions per-game. Ranking 2nd shooting 51.8% from the field but only scoring a slightly above average 1.02 points per possession, Warren is one of the most unique players in this class. He leads this group seeing 2.9 possessions per-game on cuts and 2.5 possessions per-game on put backs, but ranks below average in spot up and post up usage.
As much as Warren's proclivity towards catch and finish opportunities around the rim makes him unique, his shot distribution is what really stands out on paper. The talented forward made a below average 32.2% of his jump shots, but finished at a group-leading 70% clip around the rim, despite lacking elite athleticism.
Warren's finishing ability is the byproduct of his truly outstanding instincts and touch on short range shots. Those two things are also reflected in his knack for scoring with his floater. Scoring more points than any player in the country on runners shooting an impressive 49%, Warren makes up for his lack of jump shooting ability by making short range shots at an elite-level. Warren will be one of the truly interesting cases to keep track of in this class, as it's been some times since we've seen a small forward with his unique offensive skill set.
by PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:50:55
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:51:27
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:52:22
by mcare89 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:54:22
Gimpy wrote:mcare89 wrote:I disagree. You can always use more picks. If the board doesn't break their way at 10, I'd definitely be in favor of them trading back and picking up Saric and another piece instead of just sitting at 10.
If they trade MCW and get Vonleh after drafting Exum and the board doesn't break their way, I'd rather see them trade 10 for a pick to use on Saric and an unprotected (or not heavily protected) pick next year.
I'd also rather see them try to use some of those seconds to make something happen either in the 20's or move up or around with our other picks (10+47 for Saric and an unprotected 2015 first?). There's no way in hell we're drafting five guys in the second. It's going to be weird as hell if the first round passes and we haven't moved any of them.
by PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:54:25
by etched Chaos » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:55:31
Gimpy wrote:Ford just traded Thad for Asik and 25. Dude wants to give us the whole first round.
by The Dude » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:55:55
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:@chadfordinsider: .@ESPNInsider I think I caused a Twitter riot in Philly with the MCW trade. Trust me Sixers fans. Trust me. #NBAFrontOffice
This is from earlier in the mock draft. Everybody has been whispering about it but Ford is damn near certain it's happening
by The Dude » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:56:35
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:57:19
mcare89 wrote:Gimpy wrote:mcare89 wrote:I disagree. You can always use more picks. If the board doesn't break their way at 10, I'd definitely be in favor of them trading back and picking up Saric and another piece instead of just sitting at 10.
If they trade MCW and get Vonleh after drafting Exum and the board doesn't break their way, I'd rather see them trade 10 for a pick to use on Saric and an unprotected (or not heavily protected) pick next year.
I'd also rather see them try to use some of those seconds to make something happen either in the 20's or move up or around with our other picks (10+47 for Saric and an unprotected 2015 first?). There's no way in hell we're drafting five guys in the second. It's going to be weird as hell if the first round passes and we haven't moved any of them.
I could definitely see them trying to roll a pick over to next year, but I don't think anyone's giving up an unprotected first for a pick in the mid teens.
