by PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:58:03
Gimpy wrote:Ford just traded Thad for Asik and 25. Dude wants to give us the whole first round.
by joe table » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:58:05
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:TJ does nothing exceptional but does everything well. He made a quantum leap from his freshman year to his sophomore year. I would agree that the amount of "How the #$!&@ did he make that" shots were high. He also put up that great shooting percentage clip with no NBA talent around him and a mediocre coach in a good conference. I love him and I hope he becomes a Sixers
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:58:20
etched Chaos wrote:Gimpy wrote:Ford just traded Thad for Asik and 25. Dude wants to give us the whole first round.
Surely we can do much better than Asik and #25?
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 22:59:54
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gimpy wrote:Ford just traded Thad for Asik and 25. Dude wants to give us the whole first round.
I think he tried to trade Thad for #20.
Also we got 7 straight up for MCW. All along I've been reading it would have to be MCW+, right? Straight up sure makes it tough to pass up if Wiggins isn't there at 3.
by joe table » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:00:09
by PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:01:02
joe table wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:TJ does nothing exceptional but does everything well. He made a quantum leap from his freshman year to his sophomore year. I would agree that the amount of "How the #$!&@ did he make that" shots were high. He also put up that great shooting percentage clip with no NBA talent around him and a mediocre coach in a good conference. I love him and I hope he becomes a Sixers
he doesn't shoot 3s (or any jumpers) well which is my concern as an NBA wing. and definitely showed great scoring skills when he gets in close, but it's mostly below the rim stuff. i'm concerned it might have been a fluke season and the kawhi leonards of the world are gonna send that shit back now in the NBA, since he's not gonna beat people with quickness
by mcare89 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:03:26
joe table wrote:is asik still valuable though? he's been on the trade block for years and apparently caused trouble in locker room
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:03:48
joe table wrote:is asik still valuable though? he's been on the trade block for years and apparently caused trouble in locker room
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:04:24
mcare89 wrote:joe table wrote:is asik still valuable though? he's been on the trade block for years and apparently caused trouble in locker room
I think he'd be an interesting deadline chip, especially if the Sixers have their full allotment of cash to send with him for a pick somewhere. The problem with him is the balloon payment.
by PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:04:38
Gimpy wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gimpy wrote:Ford just traded Thad for Asik and 25. Dude wants to give us the whole first round.
I think he tried to trade Thad for #20.
Also we got 7 straight up for MCW. All along I've been reading it would have to be MCW+, right? Straight up sure makes it tough to pass up if Wiggins isn't there at 3.
If anything, I could see it being MCW for 7+Nash. I doubt the Lakers would want to add Thad's salary and Nash is a negative. It's a trade I'd only do if a player the Sixers were targeting was there at 7.
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:07:59
by mcare89 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:09:33
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gimpy wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gimpy wrote:Ford just traded Thad for Asik and 25. Dude wants to give us the whole first round.
I think he tried to trade Thad for #20.
Also we got 7 straight up for MCW. All along I've been reading it would have to be MCW+, right? Straight up sure makes it tough to pass up if Wiggins isn't there at 3.
If anything, I could see it being MCW for 7+Nash. I doubt the Lakers would want to add Thad's salary and Nash is a negative. It's a trade I'd only do if a player the Sixers were targeting was there at 7.
Well I think Ford proposes a good point. You have to make this trade pretty soon before/after you make that 3rd selection. Unless they actually think MCW/Exum is going to work. I would hate to draft Exum at 3, then get stuck with MCW because the guy you really wanted went to Boston.
by PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:09:55
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:11:43
mcare89 wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gimpy wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gimpy wrote:Ford just traded Thad for Asik and 25. Dude wants to give us the whole first round.
I think he tried to trade Thad for #20.
Also we got 7 straight up for MCW. All along I've been reading it would have to be MCW+, right? Straight up sure makes it tough to pass up if Wiggins isn't there at 3.
If anything, I could see it being MCW for 7+Nash. I doubt the Lakers would want to add Thad's salary and Nash is a negative. It's a trade I'd only do if a player the Sixers were targeting was there at 7.
Well I think Ford proposes a good point. You have to make this trade pretty soon before/after you make that 3rd selection. Unless they actually think MCW/Exum is going to work. I would hate to draft Exum at 3, then get stuck with MCW because the guy you really wanted went to Boston.
Feel like it would be a conditional based on a list of guys being available at 7.
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:12:25
by mcare89 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:16:45
Gimpy wrote:mcare89 wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gimpy wrote:PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gimpy wrote:Ford just traded Thad for Asik and 25. Dude wants to give us the whole first round.
I think he tried to trade Thad for #20.
Also we got 7 straight up for MCW. All along I've been reading it would have to be MCW+, right? Straight up sure makes it tough to pass up if Wiggins isn't there at 3.
If anything, I could see it being MCW for 7+Nash. I doubt the Lakers would want to add Thad's salary and Nash is a negative. It's a trade I'd only do if a player the Sixers were targeting was there at 7.
Well I think Ford proposes a good point. You have to make this trade pretty soon before/after you make that 3rd selection. Unless they actually think MCW/Exum is going to work. I would hate to draft Exum at 3, then get stuck with MCW because the guy you really wanted went to Boston.
Feel like it would be a conditional based on a list of guys being available at 7.
The list would probably have seven guys on it though.
by JFLNYC » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:20:27
mcare89 wrote:JFLNYC wrote:mcare89 wrote:So, here's my read on the situation.
The Sixers and Cavs are playing chicken right now. I think the Cavs still want to draft Embiid. Tellem is trying to steer Orlando and Utah out of the picture, but Philly is the wild card because Hinkie doesn't care if Embiid plays this year. Philly is trying to convince Cleveland that if they trade down any further than 3, they aren't getting Embiid, because the Sixers will pick him. (Whether they actually will or not, I don't know.) So for Cleveland, it comes down to whether they're going to risk losing Embiid to add Derrick Favors and 23, or whether they take what Philly's offering and call it a day and just take Embiid at 3.
Unless the Sixers wanted Embiid all along.
If the Sixers wanted Embiid all along, I feel like the trade talks with Cleveland would have been pretty short prior to Embiid's injury, and according to pretty much every source out there, they were not.
by Gimpy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:22:16
mcare89 wrote:Gimpy wrote:mcare89 wrote:Feel like it would be a conditional based on a list of guys being available at 7.
The list would probably have seven guys on it though.
Maybe. Depends on how they have guys ranked. It's entirely possible they've looked at one of those forwards and just went "NOPE" for whatever reason.
by mcare89 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:23:52
JFLNYC wrote:mcare89 wrote:JFLNYC wrote:mcare89 wrote:So, here's my read on the situation.
The Sixers and Cavs are playing chicken right now. I think the Cavs still want to draft Embiid. Tellem is trying to steer Orlando and Utah out of the picture, but Philly is the wild card because Hinkie doesn't care if Embiid plays this year. Philly is trying to convince Cleveland that if they trade down any further than 3, they aren't getting Embiid, because the Sixers will pick him. (Whether they actually will or not, I don't know.) So for Cleveland, it comes down to whether they're going to risk losing Embiid to add Derrick Favors and 23, or whether they take what Philly's offering and call it a day and just take Embiid at 3.
Unless the Sixers wanted Embiid all along.
If the Sixers wanted Embiid all along, I feel like the trade talks with Cleveland would have been pretty short prior to Embiid's injury, and according to pretty much every source out there, they were not.
Pretty much every source says nothing about whether the talks were long, short or anything I'm between.
by mcare89 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 23:25:54
Gimpy wrote:mcare89 wrote:Gimpy wrote:mcare89 wrote:Feel like it would be a conditional based on a list of guys being available at 7.
The list would probably have seven guys on it though.
Maybe. Depends on how they have guys ranked. It's entirely possible they've looked at one of those forwards and just went "NOPE" for whatever reason.
We're figuring Wiggins and Parker are off the board and that we got Exum at three. So there really only need to be four guys on the list. Rumor has it (and those are always so reliable) that they may like Smart better than MCW. So even if you only have Embiid, Vonleh, Gordon, and Smart on there, you're guaranteed one of those guys at seven.
