Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:24:08

Donald IS America and America IS Donald. Everyone thinks they are talented or good enough to be famous and do amazing things. Reality TV has killed reality and people's ability to know what it is.

The guy who is going to be president just chose Putin, one of the more evil people in the world, over our own intelligence community. And most of his supporters are fine with that because the GOP has spent the past few decades undermining trust in our government with conspiracy nonsense. Plus, they love Putin's strength because they are in serious need of a daddy figure.

we've ben fucked for a decade but are just now realizing it.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:26:11

Detailed article today in the New York Times about the ambassador situation.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:38:29

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Wow, the ratings are in and Arnold Schwarzenegger got "swamped" (or destroyed) by comparison to the ratings machine, DJT. So much for....


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being a movie star-and that was season 1 compared to season 14. Now compare him to my season 1. But who cares, he supported Kasich & Hillary

He's still a executive producer on the show, yet he is trashing the ratings.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:39:51

jerseyhoya wrote:Only not extending Obama's political appointee ambassadors, not recalling career foreign service ambassadors or other diplomats

Still its dumb, and you know it's dumb, and most Republican leaders know its dumb but most will either support this, even if only by simply remaining silent.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:49:30

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jerseyhoya wrote:Only not extending Obama's political appointee ambassadors, not recalling career foreign service ambassadors or other diplomats


Correct, the people who were appointed, and work at the pleasure of the President, but I am sure that some type of formal change over is not only customary, but important. I think a lot of postings, especially places that are not terribly glamorous, are staffed out by experts. That is an educated guess rooted in logic. For example, London is an easy post and a reward where as places like Afghanistan (currently a careerist, not an appointee) are people there to get things done in the local environment.

Not to mention that these are places where it can take years to familiarize oneself with the players and develop relationships. That fact was/is one of the major obstacles to our military interventions in the Middle East because our officers would rotate out every six(ish) months, so the new guys essentially would have to start from scratch unless they were on a second/third/fourth tour.

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:04:11

TenuredVulture wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Only not extending Obama's political appointee ambassadors, not recalling career foreign service ambassadors or other diplomats

Still its dumb, and you know it's dumb, and most Republican leaders know its dumb but most will either support this, even if only by simply remaining silent.

It's not dumb. Obama's domestic political appointees are all out as of Jan 20, so should his foreign appointees. The complaints seem to almost entirely focus on ambassadors with school age children having their school years interrupted. Trump should extend the term of Obama political appointees so they don't have to find a house to rent in their countries so their kids can finish the school year? GTFO

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Bucky » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:15:06

what is customary here? I could see domestics being much easier to transition than those in foreign lands. When O took over, were all of W's guys deposed on day 1?

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby JUburton » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:19:58

why would you want the option for a smooth/longer transition if the situation calls for it, thats crazy!

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:30:04

It would appear to be completely customary to let people wrap up and have a soft landing, as presidents on both sides have allowed in the past. But fuck em! This was the fuck you election!
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Youseff » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:31:40

pacino wrote:It would appear to be completely customary to let people wrap up and have a soft landing, as presidents on both sides have allowed in the past. But fuck em! This was the fuck you election!


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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby 06hawkalum » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:33:05

jerseyhoya wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Only not extending Obama's political appointee ambassadors, not recalling career foreign service ambassadors or other diplomats

Still its dumb, and you know it's dumb, and most Republican leaders know its dumb but most will either support this, even if only by simply remaining silent.

It's not dumb. Obama's domestic political appointees are all out as of Jan 20, so should his foreign appointees. The complaints seem to almost entirely focus on ambassadors with school age children having their school years interrupted. Trump should extend the term of Obama political appointees so they don't have to find a house to rent in their countries so their kids can finish the school year? GTFO


Yet I am sure that you are perfectly fine with our First Mail Order Lady and little prince staying in the NYC WH so that he can finish up the school year in his ultra exclusive prep school. To the winner goes the spoils right?
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby 06hawkalum » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:34:07

Youseff wrote:
pacino wrote:It would appear to be completely customary to let people wrap up and have a soft landing, as presidents on both sides have allowed in the past. But #$!&@ em! This was the #$!&@ you election!


the people who have economic anxiety (and also anxiety about white genocide) have spoken!


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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:40:08

06hawkalum wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Only not extending Obama's political appointee ambassadors, not recalling career foreign service ambassadors or other diplomats

Still its dumb, and you know it's dumb, and most Republican leaders know its dumb but most will either support this, even if only by simply remaining silent.

It's not dumb. Obama's domestic political appointees are all out as of Jan 20, so should his foreign appointees. The complaints seem to almost entirely focus on ambassadors with school age children having their school years interrupted. Trump should extend the term of Obama political appointees so they don't have to find a house to rent in their countries so their kids can finish the school year? GTFO

Yet I am sure that you are perfectly fine with our First Mail Order Lady and little prince staying in the NYC WH so that he can finish up the school year in his ultra exclusive prep school. To the winner goes the spoils right?

I would rather they moved to save the money, but the situations aren't the same.

These are political appointees. Their jobs end when Obama's term ends unless the next administration wants to keep them on. I don't really think Trump should feel the need to keep Obama bundlers on in ambassadorial roles because they have kids in school in those countries. Rent a house for the remainder of the school year if staying in country that important to you.

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby 06hawkalum » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:46:02

jerseyhoya wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Only not extending Obama's political appointee ambassadors, not recalling career foreign service ambassadors or other diplomats

Still its dumb, and you know it's dumb, and most Republican leaders know its dumb but most will either support this, even if only by simply remaining silent.

It's not dumb. Obama's domestic political appointees are all out as of Jan 20, so should his foreign appointees. The complaints seem to almost entirely focus on ambassadors with school age children having their school years interrupted. Trump should extend the term of Obama political appointees so they don't have to find a house to rent in their countries so their kids can finish the school year? GTFO

Yet I am sure that you are perfectly fine with our First Mail Order Lady and little prince staying in the NYC WH so that he can finish up the school year in his ultra exclusive prep school. To the winner goes the spoils right?

I would rather they moved to save the money, but the situations aren't the same.

These are political appointees. Their jobs end when Obama's term ends unless the next administration wants to keep them on. I don't really think Trump should feel the need to keep Obama bundlers on in ambassadorial roles because they have kids in school in those countries. Rent a house for the remainder of the school year if staying in country that important to you.


Why the need to break with tradition?
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:54:01

President-elect Donald J. Trump said in an interview [with the New York Times] Friday morning that the storm surrounding Russian hacking during the presidential campaign is a political witch hunt being carried out by his adversaries, who he said were embarrassed by their loss to him in the election last year.

Mr. Trump spoke to The New York Times by telephone three hours before he was set to be briefed by the nation’s top intelligence and law enforcement officials about Russian hacking of American political institutions. In the conversation, he repeatedly criticized the intense focus on the alleged cyber intrusions by Russia.


Further and further down the rabbit hole. . .
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby 06hawkalum » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:57:45

JFLNYC wrote:
President-elect Donald J. Trump said in an interview [with the New York Times] Friday morning that the storm surrounding Russian hacking during the presidential campaign is a political witch hunt being carried out by his adversaries, who he said were embarrassed by their loss to him in the election last year.

Mr. Trump spoke to The New York Times by telephone three hours before he was set to be briefed by the nation’s top intelligence and law enforcement officials about Russian hacking of American political institutions. In the conversation, he repeatedly criticized the intense focus on the alleged cyber intrusions by Russia.


Further and further down the rabbit hole. . .


Oh yes, a bigly scandal is coming that will make Watergate pale in comparison. The Blob has Nixonian levels of paranoia and only a small fraction of Dick's intelligence.

This is all going to end very badly for The Blob and the GOP.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Jan 06, 2017 13:11:21

06hawkalum wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
President-elect Donald J. Trump said in an interview [with the New York Times] Friday morning that the storm surrounding Russian hacking during the presidential campaign is a political witch hunt being carried out by his adversaries, who he said were embarrassed by their loss to him in the election last year.

Mr. Trump spoke to The New York Times by telephone three hours before he was set to be briefed by the nation’s top intelligence and law enforcement officials about Russian hacking of American political institutions. In the conversation, he repeatedly criticized the intense focus on the alleged cyber intrusions by Russia.


Further and further down the rabbit hole. . .


Oh yes, a bigly scandal is coming that will make Watergate pale in comparison. The Blob has Nixonian levels of paranoia and only a small fraction of Dick's intelligence.

This is all going to end very badly for The Blob and the GOP.

Pejoratives aside, I generally agree. He's going to alienate high profile GOPers on the Hill, particularly in the Senate, due to his thin skin and reflexive, insult-driven responses to such "feuds." McConnell and Ryan will have their work cut out for them, and they won't be able to stop investigations once Trump has alienated enough legislators.

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 06, 2017 13:20:22

10 minutes til showdown at the Trump Corral. Known Trump enemy James Comey to attend.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 06, 2017 13:22:49

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
President-elect Donald J. Trump said in an interview [with the New York Times] Friday morning that the storm surrounding Russian hacking during the presidential campaign is a political witch hunt being carried out by his adversaries, who he said were embarrassed by their loss to him in the election last year.

Mr. Trump spoke to The New York Times by telephone three hours before he was set to be briefed by the nation’s top intelligence and law enforcement officials about Russian hacking of American political institutions. In the conversation, he repeatedly criticized the intense focus on the alleged cyber intrusions by Russia.


Further and further down the rabbit hole. . .


Oh yes, a bigly scandal is coming that will make Watergate pale in comparison. The Blob has Nixonian levels of paranoia and only a small fraction of Dick's intelligence.

This is all going to end very badly for The Blob and the GOP.

Pejoratives aside, I generally agree. He's going to alienate high profile GOPers on the Hill, particularly in the Senate, due to his thin skin and reflexive, insult-driven responses to such "feuds." McConnell and Ryan will have their work cut out for them, and they won't be able to stop investigations once Trump has alienated enough legislators.

You hold out more hope than I as far as investigations go; I hope I am wrong. I honestly, truly do.
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