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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby JUburton » Tue Dec 06, 2016 09:32:43

I assume everyone's seen this by now but Pentagon hid $125 billion in wasted spending. Well they found they could cut $25b/yr for the next 5 years as it was largely administrative spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... e2fe88e6c8

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Tue Dec 06, 2016 09:34:51

sir, the Pentgaon is under-staffed and we need to beef up our defense.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 06, 2016 09:36:19

JUburton wrote:I assume everyone's seen this by now but Pentagon hid $125 billion in wasted spending. Well they found they could cut $25b/yr for the next 5 years as it was largely administrative spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... e2fe88e6c8


lotta jobs in a lotta congressional districts in there. Imagine the squealing as drumpf aims to turn all that into warheads or 1% tax cuts
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby JUburton » Tue Dec 06, 2016 09:40:01

one meeeeeeeeelion...desk jobs

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby thephan » Tue Dec 06, 2016 09:57:46

Taft below the mendoza line. Our only Chief Executive/Chief Justice (27/10 - "Presidents come and go, but the Supreme Court goes on forever"). I would have though he would rank higher based on his life time achievement award (although he seems a capture to special interests and his own hunger for power). It would have been curious to see if he would have been re-elected, and it seems likely, had TR not split the party be creating the Bull Moose Party. WW was his successor, and primary beneficiary of the Bull Moose men (women were kept in their place until 1920) .
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby thephan » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:00:23

JUburton wrote:I assume everyone's seen this by now but Pentagon hid $125 billion in wasted spending. Well they found they could cut $25b/yr for the next 5 years as it was largely administrative spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... e2fe88e6c8


when we start rebuilding the Navy, buying more tanks, etc., we will need those people ready and fit for duty.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Bucky » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:01:16

you mean when china attacks us

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:05:46

drsmooth wrote:
JUburton wrote:I assume everyone's seen this by now but Pentagon hid $125 billion in wasted spending. Well they found they could cut $25b/yr for the next 5 years as it was largely administrative spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... e2fe88e6c8


lotta jobs in a lotta congressional districts in there. Imagine the squealing as drumpf aims to turn all that into warheads or 1% tax cuts

That would probably hit Virginia pretty hard, honestly.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:07:42

China is gearing up to kick our asses all over the place. They won't need to beat us with guns.

Their secondary education system is going to produce the next generation of engineers and scientists. That's where we will lose and nothing else matters too much because it all starts there.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby JFLNYC » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:11:15

pacino wrote:Michigan's pilot program on drug testing welfare recipients was a bust. they busted no one.

poor people who seek out help to pay their bills tend to not spend that money on drugs.


It's just another variation on the welfare queen narrative: "Those people" using our tax dollars for frivolous things.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:16:05

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
JUburton wrote:I assume everyone's seen this by now but Pentagon hid $125 billion in wasted spending. Well they found they could cut $25b/yr for the next 5 years as it was largely administrative spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... e2fe88e6c8


lotta jobs in a lotta congressional districts in there. Imagine the squealing as drumpf aims to turn all that into warheads or 1% tax cuts

That would probably hit Virginia pretty hard, honestly.


undoubtedly

but there's plenty in there to singe a lot of congresspeople. A million desk jobs is a lot of middle classes in the seats
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Youseff » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:33:52

pacino wrote:they had wooden staircases in that huge oakland fire. they had no sprinklers. they didn't have proper fire exits.

regulations matter.


the free market will figure it out
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Werthless » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:46:26

drsmooth wrote:
Werthless wrote:Wilson was awful. Treaty of versailles, indirectly leading to ww2. Sedition Act so he could jail political opponents. Instituted segregation across the administration workforce. Hard to argue he should be 21 spots above Chester Arthur, whose wiki page provides a good overview of his presidency... unexciting, but highly regarded by his contemporaries.


I'm with you that Wilson was a pretty odd duck. But Clemenceau et al weren't goinng to do anything particularly more brilliant with post WWI Europe and colonies, so many hands contributed to continuation of the Long War.The other stuff, yeah, not highlights of his resume.


so, that's one guy. Does your correlation rely so heavily on the skew of this one mis-ranked POTUS?

The Presidents that were in office during times of great conflict and/or pushed the boundaries of their constitutional powers are all at the top of the list. Lincoln, civil war. FDR, with his New Deal + court packing scheme + price fixing, near the top. Jefferson with his Louisiana Purchase. Wilson, WWI. Jackson with his trail of Tears. Harry Truman dropping bombs. Eisenhower, Korean War. JFK, Cuban Missile crisis. They are all in the top third, basically, for pushing aside the Constitution and/or being President in time of crisis, whether they handled the crisis well or not (eg. JFK). George W. Bush is one of the exceptions, as he is near the bottom of the list.

I like some of the above Presidents, so I'm not arguing that Lincoln shouldn't be near the top, or Jefferson. I'm mainly pointing out that's the dimension that many people use to rank the Presidents, and it wasn't necessarily deliberate. Historians should have the perspective to properly recognize good Presidents who avoided conflict, respected the limitations on the executive office, and contributed to the long-term development of the country. I gave Chester Arthur some props, since he is the Rodney Dangerfield of the Presidents.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Phred » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:52:21

JUburton wrote:I assume everyone's seen this by now but Pentagon hid $125 billion in wasted spending. Well they found they could cut $25b/yr for the next 5 years as it was largely administrative spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... e2fe88e6c8


If you can't trust the Pentagon, who can you trust?
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:53:32

down with boeing!

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Youseff » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:04:47

so what percentage of Trump voters are Pizzagate true believers? 40, 50, 60?
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:06:50

clinton pop vote lead over 2 percent now.

Will Bunch ‏@Will_Bunch 23m23 minutes ago
Trump got 46.2 percent of the popular vote (and dropping). Mike Dukakis - considered a disastrous candidate - got 45.6 percent in 1988

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Werthless » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:10:10

JUburton wrote:I assume everyone's seen this by now but Pentagon hid $125 billion in wasted spending. Well they found they could cut $25b/yr for the next 5 years as it was largely administrative spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... e2fe88e6c8

Cat nip for Trump.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:16:43

Werthless wrote:The Presidents that were in office during times of great conflict and/or pushed the boundaries of their constitutional powers are all at the top of the list.


this seems different - broader, at very least - than the one-dimensional "expanded the power of the executive branch" marker you originally asserted
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:32:29

Werthless wrote:
JUburton wrote:I assume everyone's seen this by now but Pentagon hid $125 billion in wasted spending. Well they found they could cut $25b/yr for the next 5 years as it was largely administrative spending.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... e2fe88e6c8

Cat nip for Trump.

he wants to cut spending everywhere except the military, where he wants to increase it.
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