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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Dec 05, 2016 08:44:01

the NY Times writeup:

“Ben Carson has a brilliant mind and is passionate about strengthening communities and families within those communities,” Mr. Trump said in a statement Monday morning. “We have talked at length about my urban renewal agenda and our message of economic revival, very much including our inner cities.”

“Ben shares my optimism about the future of our country and is part of ensuring that this is a presidency representing all Americans,” he added. “He is a tough competitor and never gives up.”

With no experience in government or running a large bureaucracy, Mr. Carson, 65, publicly waffled over whether to join the administration. He will oversee an agency with a $47 billion budget, bringing to the job a philosophical opposition to government programs that encourage what he calls “dependency” and engage in “social engineering.”

He has no expertise in housing policy, but he did spend part of his childhood in public housing, said a close friend, Armstrong Williams, and he was raised by a dauntless mother with a grammar-school education. In his autobiography he stressed that individual effort, not government programs, were the key to overcoming poverty.

The Department of Housing and Urban Development oversees programs that provide vouchers and other rental assistance for five million low-income families, fights urban blight and helps struggling homeowners stave off foreclosures.

Housing policy was rarely mentioned on the campaign trail by candidates in either party. When Mr. Trump spoke of “inner cities,” he painted with a broad brush to describe the lives of poor blacks and Hispanics as “a disaster,” pleading for their votes by asking, “What do you have to lose?”

In an opinion article in 2015 for The Washington Times, Mr. Carson compared an Obama administration housing regulation to “the failure of school busing” because it would place affordable housing “primarily in wealthier neighborhoods with few current minority residents.”

The rule, known as Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, was years in the making and designed to end decades-old segregation by offering affluent areas incentives to build affordable housing. Critics, including Mr. Carson, called it government overreach.

Barbara Sard, a former official at the housing department during President Obama’s first term, said Mr. Carson’s view was a misunderstanding of the regulation and its origin in the 1968 Fair Housing Act. The rule also included development funds for poor neighborhoods.


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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Dec 05, 2016 09:17:15

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby jamiethekiller » Mon Dec 05, 2016 09:31:33

lol @ that carson thing

i'm not a racist, i know black people!

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:32:17

This is insane. I genuinely think our country may not come back from this.

We're looking for jobs right now and I really don't feel like I can bring my family back to my home country. It's not even on the table anymore.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby drsmooth » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:52:26

MBoy, I hear Carrier is pretend-hiring
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:42:47

538 list of scholarly presidential rankings

    Abraham Lincoln
    Franklin D. Roosevelt
    George Washington
    Theodore Roosevelt
    Thomas Jefferson
    Harry Truman
    Woodrow Wilson
    Dwight D. Eisenhower
    John F. Kennedy
    Ronald Reagan
    James K. Polk
    Lyndon B. Johnson
    Andrew Jackson
    James Monroe
    James Madison
    John Adams
    Barack Obama*
    Bill Clinton
    William McKinley
    John Quincy Adams
    Grover Cleveland
    George H.W. Bush
    Ulysses S. Grant
    Gerald Ford
    William Howard Taft
    Jimmy Carter
    Calvin Coolidge
    Chester A. Arthur
    Richard Nixon
    James A. Garfield
    Martin Van Buren
    Rutherford B. Hayes
    Zachary Taylor
    Benjamin Harrison
    Herbert Hoover
    John Tyler
    Millard Fillmore
    George W. Bush
    Andrew Johnson
    William Henry Harrison
    Warren G. Harding
    Franklin Pierce
    James Buchanan

* Projected

Yes there are 43 because Grover Cleveland is the 22/24 president.

So if we survived the bottom third of that list, we will be OK.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:46:56

Al Gore is at Trump Tower meeting with Ivanka about Climate Change issues

What a time to be alive

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Soren » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:51:16

We get to witness the world moving on. The Orange King has gained the Dark Tower.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby 06hawkalum » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:52:47

jerseyhoya wrote:Al Gore is at Trump Tower meeting with Ivanka about Climate Change issues

What a time to be alive


It appears that Ivanka and Kushner will be largely running the show with Cheeto nothing more than a figurehead.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby drsmooth » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:56:20

06hawkalum wrote:It appears that Ivanka and Kushner will be largely running the show with Cheeto nothing more than a figurehead.


greatest blind trust ever, believe me
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Grotewold » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:56:48

06hawkalum wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Al Gore is at Trump Tower meeting with Ivanka about Climate Change issues

What a time to be alive


It appears that Ivanka and Kushner will be largely running the show with Cheeto nothing more than a figurehead.


We win?

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:58:41

after reading excerpts from Ivanka's book, she seems just as insane as her dad

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:59:15

why didnt she take her husband's last name? this is not going to sit well with the voters of arkansas.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby drsmooth » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:59:45

Yes, but in a double utley you can put your utley on top they other guy's utley, and you're the winner. (Swish)

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Dec 05, 2016 13:05:55

jerseyhoya wrote:Al Gore is at Trump Tower meeting with Ivanka about Climate Change issues

What a time to be alive

why would the Trump Organization meet with Al Gore? making sure the hotels are LEED certified?
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Dec 05, 2016 13:06:54

Grotewold wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Al Gore is at Trump Tower meeting with Ivanka about Climate Change issues

What a time to be alive


It appears that Ivanka and Kushner will be largely running the show with Cheeto nothing more than a figurehead.


We win?

out-of-touch corrupt millionaires living off their parents' glory governing from a golden tower

#draintheswamp
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby traderdave » Mon Dec 05, 2016 13:48:08

So Hillary Clinton should be jailed for the private server/classified information fiasco and she is a national embarrassment because her husband cannot keep it in his pants. Meanwhile, a guy who actually plead guilty to mishandling classified information (for a book) and cheated on his wife multiple times is one of the leading candidates to be our nation's next lead diplomat. Drain the Swamp, indeed.

As an aside, I saw that Jon Huntsman has been added to the list of candidates. I think that could be Trump's first decent move. I was pretty impressed with Huntsman during the 2012 election and very well might have voted for him had he been the GOP nominee.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Dec 05, 2016 13:54:56

traderdave wrote:So Hillary Clinton should be jailed for the private server/classified information fiasco and she is a national embarrassment because her husband cannot keep it in his pants. Meanwhile, a guy who actually plead guilty to mishandling classified information (for a book) and cheated on his wife multiple times is one of the leading candidates to be our nation's next lead diplomat. Drain the Swamp, indeed.


It's actually worse than that. Hillary was "extremely careless" with classified information, but there's no evidence any such information leaked. Petraus intentionally disseminated classified information to his mistress. He's Hillary and Bill all rolled into one!
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 05, 2016 14:11:52

North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory concedes race
yawn

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 05, 2016 14:14:07

JFLNYC wrote:
traderdave wrote:So Hillary Clinton should be jailed for the private server/classified information fiasco and she is a national embarrassment because her husband cannot keep it in his pants. Meanwhile, a guy who actually plead guilty to mishandling classified information (for a book) and cheated on his wife multiple times is one of the leading candidates to be our nation's next lead diplomat. Drain the Swamp, indeed.


It's actually worse than that. Hillary was "extremely careless" with classified information, but there's no evidence any such information leaked. Petraus intentionally disseminated classified information to his mistress. He's Hillary and Bill all rolled into one!


But wait, there is more... Intel Advisor lost his job leading DIA because of 2 incident with mishandling classified. Yes he was allowed to retire ahead of schedule (his wishes), but the truth is he was forced to retire (I like to think of him as Humpty Dumpty being PUSHED).
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