The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:03:06

jerseyhoya wrote:
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NEW: Q-poll records their highest support ever for pathway to citizenship. 72% want legalization only 25% deport all

The American people right now are a somewhat confused bunch.

Not really. That 25% damn near jives with the amount of the population that voted for Trump.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:09:41

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Todd Schulte ‏@TheToddSchulte
NEW: Q-poll records their highest support ever for pathway to citizenship. 72% want legalization only 25% deport all

The American people right now are a somewhat confused bunch.

Not really. That 25% damn near jives with the amount of the population that voted for Trump.

That's not really how this works.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:33:52

jerseyhoya wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Todd Schulte ‏@TheToddSchulte
NEW: Q-poll records their highest support ever for pathway to citizenship. 72% want legalization only 25% deport all

The American people right now are a somewhat confused bunch.

Not really. That 25% damn near jives with the amount of the population that voted for Trump.

That's not really how this works.

In what way? I was glib, and obviously the comparison isn't perfect (the Q survey sample is registered voters) but the turnout of registered voters was low, and only 54% of eligible citizens cast a ballot. It's not outlandish to say that 75% of the population didn't cast a vote to support his immigration policy.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby thephan » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:46:50

Michael Needham from the Heritage Foundation said that Nikki Haley is a great choice from UN because she has been out of the country like a dozen times (on economic development trips tbf). That seems like a low bar. My feel is that she could have been more useful elsewhere.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Grotewold » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:48:36

thephan wrote:Michael Needham from the Heritage Foundation said that Nikki Haley is a great choice from UN because she has been out of the country like a dozen times


So has Rasheed Wallace

Which come to mention it

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Nov 23, 2016 14:20:41

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Todd Schulte ‏@TheToddSchulte
NEW: Q-poll records their highest support ever for pathway to citizenship. 72% want legalization only 25% deport all

The American people right now are a somewhat confused bunch.

Not really. That 25% damn near jives with the amount of the population that voted for Trump.

That's not really how this works.

In what way? I was glib, and obviously the comparison isn't perfect (the Q survey sample is registered voters) but the turnout of registered voters was low, and only 54% of eligible citizens cast a ballot. It's not outlandish to say that 75% of the population didn't cast a vote to support his immigration policy.

For one thing, I don't really like the "only 27% of people voted for Trump" thing because that's usually about what percentage of people vote for the person who wins. Obama got like 28% last time, didn't really hear that then. WGAF.

On the more specific nitpicking point, as you note it's RVs, and then furthermore people who take the time to take political polls are more likely to be voters, so probably closer to 40% of their sample were Trump voters.

I do agree it's not outlandish to say 75% of the population didn't cast a vote to support his immigration policy. A large minority or maybe even a slight majority of Trump voters probably don't agree with his immigration policy. (To whatever extent we're actually able to discern what his immigration policy is.)

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby traderdave » Wed Nov 23, 2016 14:54:38

thephan wrote:Michael Needham from the Heritage Foundation said that Nikki Haley is a great choice from UN because she has been out of the country like a dozen times (on economic development trips tbf). That seems like a low bar. My feel is that she could have been more useful elsewhere.


I would hazard a guess that multiple people from this site have been overseas more than Nikki Haley. That's like Ford's BoD naming me CEO because I've driven an Explorer for the last 20 years.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby JUburton » Wed Nov 23, 2016 15:39:59

I just learned who Betsy DeVos is but I'm fairly confident in saying she is terrible. Ben Carson I know and is still terrible.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Nov 23, 2016 15:45:53

President-elect Donald Trump announced several high-level appointments to his administration, naming Kansas congressman Mike Pompeo, who has called for the death penalty for Edward Snowden, as director of the CIA; Alabama senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, who was denied a federal judgeship in the 1980s for making racist remarks, as attorney general; former Breitbart News editor Steve Bannon, who staffers said "aggressively pushed stories against immigrants, and supported linking minorities to terrorism and crime," as chief strategist; and Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, who has said that fearing Muslims is rational, as national-security advisor. "Great," said former Ku Klux Klan imperial wizard David Duke.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby drsmooth » Wed Nov 23, 2016 15:46:53

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Todd Schulte ‏@TheToddSchulte
NEW: Q-poll records their highest support ever for pathway to citizenship. 72% want legalization only 25% deport all

The American people right now are a somewhat confused bunch.

Not really. That 25% damn near jives with the amount of the population that voted for Trump.

That's not really how this works.

In what way? I was glib, and obviously the comparison isn't perfect (the Q survey sample is registered voters) but the turnout of registered voters was low, and only 54% of eligible citizens cast a ballot. It's not outlandish to say that 75% of the population didn't cast a vote to support his immigration policy.


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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby drsmooth » Wed Nov 23, 2016 15:50:14

outbound POTUS dropping horrible puns on pardoned turkeys
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 23, 2016 16:16:53

JUburton wrote:I just learned who Betsy DeVos is but I'm fairly confident in saying she is terrible. Ben Carson I know and is still terrible.

she's a 'school choice' person. Trump met with Michelle Rhee, former city of DC head of schools (and big 'school choice' advocate) and probably got the name from that meeting.

Charter schools gonna go more ham than they even have the past 15 years. Lots of people I know (and the NEA/AFT) didn't like Arne Duncan at all...they're gonna really hate this. Maybe that's the point?

as someone not opposed to common core, some interesting tidbits:
Frederick Hess of the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute called DeVos a “smart and unapologetic champion for choice, which is what Trump has spoken a lot about. She’s a small government, state and local conservative.”

But others lambasted the choice, citing her involvement in Jeb Bush’s group, Foundation for Excellence in Education, which has championed the Common Core.

“President-elect Trump rightly slammed Governor Jeb Bush for his support of Common Core on the campaign trail,” said Frank Cannon, president of American Principles Project, which opposes Common Core.

“Betsy DeVos would be a very Jeb-like pick. It is puzzling, then, to see reports that the Trump transition team is considering an establishment, pro-Common Core Secretary of Education — this would not qualify as ‘draining the swamp’ — and it seems to fly in the face of what Trump has stated on education policy up to this point,” Cannon said.

When it comes to charter school oversight, DeVos has fought for fewer regulations in Michigan. DeVos and her husband helped pass Michigan’s charter school law in 1993. They also established the school choice group, the Great Lakes Education Project. Michigan’s charter schools are some of the least regulated in the country, with about 80 percent run by private companies. Chalkbeat reported this week.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby 21McBride » Wed Nov 23, 2016 16:35:11

She tweeted that she is not a supporter of Common Core.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 23, 2016 16:43:03

great
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Nov 23, 2016 16:45:48

Jill Stein is raising money to get recounts in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. She states she needs $2.5 million by 5 PM EST, she's at $76k.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 23, 2016 16:47:00

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Youseff » Wed Nov 23, 2016 16:47:01

is that number accurate? why such a short time period?
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 23, 2016 16:47:37

it took her until now to figure out a way to get her name back in the news
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Youseff » Wed Nov 23, 2016 16:47:50

also why are all the Hillary stenographer reporters saying no to this?

if the $ is accurate, and the timing is realistic I say why not.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Nov 23, 2016 16:51:17

The deadline to request a recount in Wisconsin is today, I think Monday for PA, and sometime later next week for MI.
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