Brantt wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

pacino wrote:Trump used his congrats call from the Argentine President to lobby to approve permits for a building there, as reported in La Nacion (US press doesn't have this access, imagine that).

media needs to investigate and hammer this #$!&@. this, india, and the diplomat hotel thing. these are starting to pile up. he has been president for 0 days.

Who would believe one word the media says or writes about Trump at this point?

That ship has long sailed. The MSM as a whole overplayed their hand badly during the past year and have zero credibility.

BTW.......Tulsi Gabbard is a total star in the making. I'm sure she'll be ostracized from the party after meeting with Trump.

what exactly did the media do this cycle that was an outright lie to destroy their credibility?

yes he means more than polling. let's not go down this road, he won't be swayed by any of your facts.

anyway, Gabbard is a fraud if she takes a position in the administration. To go from Bernie Sanders to Donald Trump is about as ridiculously silly as one gets. They stand for completely different things.

I've noticed among the dumber elements of the Trump brigade there's a wholesale dismissal of factual news stories under the pretense that the MSM lies about everything. It's a worrisome trend.

Unfortunately truth no longer carries the day in our country.

The House GOP plan:

House Republicans are currently in the process of making lists of regulations that fall within their time frame and could potentially be repealed early next year. One of the major ones they’re eyeing is Obama’s overtime rule that requires companies to pay time-and-a-half to employees who make under roughly $47,000.

The rule is set to go into effect Dec. 1 and will be a top priority for Republicans to reverse, multiple sources said.

“We have heard over the past year that it would have truly dramatically bad effects, not just on employers but on employees across the country,” said Rep. Bradley Byrne (R-Ala.), a former labor lawyer. He said the University of Alabama expects the rule will cost the institution $14 million a year, which will likely be passed on to students via higher tuition.

workers hate more money

A GOP wish list shared with POLITICO includes a repeal of Obama’s order to stay deportation of undocumented immigrant parents whose children were born in the U.S., and Labor Department fiduciary rules that expand conflict-of-interest requirements to financial professionals.

people love professionals pushing investments to have personal financial gains from said investments

The Trump administration has signaled that tax reform will be among its first priorities. Ways and Means Chairman Kevin Brady, in fact, is already in touch with Trump’s transition team to sync up the president-elect’s tax proposal with one the Texas Republican has crafted.

There are still questions, however, about how to do it. Brady has said he prefers a tax package that could pass with bipartisan support, eliminating the need to use reconciliation. That would be an advantage, sources say, because the fast-track procedure restricts which tax policies can be reformed.

But should Democrats block their tax plan, Republicans say they could fall back on reconciliation to jam it through Congress.

tax reform is good for you and good for me!

pacino wrote:yes he means more than polling. let's not go down this road, he won't be swayed by any of your facts.

anyway, Gabbard is a fraud if she takes a position in the administration. To go from Bernie Sanders to Donald Trump is about as ridiculously silly as one gets. They stand for completely different things.

I disagree regarding Sanders to Trump. A lot of folks wanted change. That's it. The issues aren't important. As long as there's change.

This kinda reminds me of 1968. After RFK's assassination, some of his supporters switched to Wallace.

Here's some interesting stuff regarding Wallace.

http://www.ucumberlands.edu/downloads/a ... ton92.html

@jaketapper 20h20 hours ago
POTUS in Peru says his brief chat w Putin did not include alleged Russian intervention in US election because "that's behind us."

I guess Russia is our daddy now.

pacino wrote:The House GOP plan:

House Republicans are currently in the process of making lists of regulations that fall within their time frame and could potentially be repealed early next year. One of the major ones they’re eyeing is Obama’s overtime rule that requires companies to pay time-and-a-half to employees who make under roughly $47,000.

The rule is set to go into effect Dec. 1 and will be a top priority for Republicans to reverse, multiple sources said.

“We have heard over the past year that it would have truly dramatically bad effects, not just on employers but on employees across the country,” said Rep. Bradley Byrne (R-Ala.), a former labor lawyer. He said the University of Alabama expects the rule will cost the institution $14 million a year, which will likely be passed on to students via higher tuition.

workers hate more money

Obviously giving workers more money would exacerbate income inequality. This isn't a big issue anyway

Warszawa wrote:

pacino wrote:The House GOP plan:

House Republicans are currently in the process of making lists of regulations that fall within their time frame and could potentially be repealed early next year. One of the major ones they’re eyeing is Obama’s overtime rule that requires companies to pay time-and-a-half to employees who make under roughly $47,000.

The rule is set to go into effect Dec. 1 and will be a top priority for Republicans to reverse, multiple sources said.

“We have heard over the past year that it would have truly dramatically bad effects, not just on employers but on employees across the country,” said Rep. Bradley Byrne (R-Ala.), a former labor lawyer. He said the University of Alabama expects the rule will cost the institution $14 million a year, which will likely be passed on to students via higher tuition.

workers hate more money

Obviously giving workers more money would exacerbate income inequality. This isn't a big issue anyway

paying people for services rendered is bullshit, amirite? glad we'll have a new chief in town who knows you don't do that sorta thing

Youseff wrote:

@jaketapper 20h20 hours ago
POTUS in Peru says his brief chat w Putin did not include alleged Russian intervention in US election because "that's behind us."

I guess Russia is our daddy now.

We're cucks

PA 156 House race still undecided. Was held by an R for the longest time. Dems foungt back and won it in 2008-ish. Woman who had the seat gave it up essentially because she felt she could not get anything done. Rs took it back over. Would be nice to steal it back from the incumbent.

http://www.dailylocal.com/general-news/ ... al-ballots

Argintinian President says it did not happen, but we can hope it is true.

of course he said that though.

slugsrbad wrote:

Brantt wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

pacino wrote:Trump used his congrats call from the Argentine President to lobby to approve permits for a building there, as reported in La Nacion (US press doesn't have this access, imagine that).

media needs to investigate and hammer this #$!&@. this, india, and the diplomat hotel thing. these are starting to pile up. he has been president for 0 days.

Who would believe one word the media says or writes about Trump at this point?

That ship has long sailed. The MSM as a whole overplayed their hand badly during the past year and have zero credibility.

BTW.......Tulsi Gabbard is a total star in the making. I'm sure she'll be ostracized from the party after meeting with Trump.

What story did the MSM play on Trump that was false or affect their credibility? You were pro-Trump the whole time, so I'm sure the stories stick out more in your memory than mine.

Off the top of my head.............the PTSD speech, the notion that he called all Mexicans rapists, his past business history and salary at NBC.

The bigger issue at play though is through Wikileaks we know members of the MSM, including but not limited to reporters from Politico, The New York Times, The Washington Post and CNBC were flat out coordinating with the Clinton campaign in an effort to bring down Trump and before him Sanders. There were writers who were literally sending their stories to the Clinton camp for editing and approval to run. Turn on CNN, MSNBC or Fox every night for the past year and you have reporters taking as hard-line anti-Trump stances as possible.

There was zero objectivity in the MSM reporting, and stories that actually were factually accurate or important go completely ignored because of the transparent bias shown against Trump. Don't kid yourselve, the behavior of the media played a huge role in Trump winning the election.

JFLNYC wrote:Unfortunately truth no longer carries the day in our country.

And the MSM has nobody to blame but themselves for that.

they primarily have a really stupid populace to blame that share fake news stories and ignore fact based ones.

the 'journalists are conspiring with clinton' thing was always overblown; on every level of journalism, except yellow journalism and National Enquirer-type shit, you ask the subject for comment or if there is anything incorrect. this is pretty standard stuff. I didn't see much in those Wikileaks that were a huge red flag to me.

you have joe scarborough advising Trump, Eric Boiling being vetted for a possible position, and countless other personalities that were simply on the payroll (Lewandowski at CNN while being paid by Trump) to act like the 'mainstream media' did anything as a monolith is just not true. different outlets and different reporters/talking heads act differently. Donna Brazille gave a few questions to Clinton that they already knew would be asked; Trump apparently got questions from FOX News ahead of time (including the infamous one from Megyn Kelly).

we can blame 'the media' for pushing a false both sides narrative on something or for not investigating or pushing back hard enough on other things but acting like they were explicitly 'in the tank' for Clinton is sort of absurd. The #1 story of the cycle was emails. It lapped any other coverage, and it turned out to be badly misreported by many. Certainly some reporters were snarky about Trump...ok? If this is what affected someone's vote then I really wonder why they even voted; rather, I think this is simply someone seeking another reason to reach the conclusion they already wanted to reach.

That'll be my final post on how the media did or didn't treat the campaign; i'd rather discuss the incredible lack of transparency and credibility of this incoming administration and salvage what is left of a month left.

well if you weren't sure brantt was too far gone, now you are.

IIRC Brantt said one of the reporters who broke the Sandusky/JoePa stories should be in jail, so it's not surprising he has an irrational and unintelligent view of the political reporters as well.