The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Nov 19, 2016 17:30:22

pacino wrote:Jeff Sessions is probably going to be AG. Steve Bannon has the incoming President's ear. Michael Dlynn thinks Islam is a cancer and was fired for being an incompetent buffoon. He is going to be the National Security Adviser and we're still #$!&@ arguing about how horrible Obama or the Democrats are. I've had liberals tell me it won't make a difference because we're already so bad and Obama is worse than Bush. NO WE AREN'T. NO HE ISNT IT CAN BE SO MUCH WORSE. There are things I don't like that we have been doing but I believed in the legitimacy and capabilities of those in charge. The capabilities of those coming in is SEVERELY lacking. This is going to be very very bad.

We need to get Foster Campbell elected to be one Republican vote away from stopping Trump on some very bad incoming policy.we don't need this #$!&@ infighting.

Now, if you like Trump, fine. The above was for Democrats and those opposed to Trump.


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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby pacino » Sat Nov 19, 2016 17:32:47

It would appear 61 million do. I have little doubt there's more than just 1 on this board; they just don't post in this thread.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sat Nov 19, 2016 18:22:48

Joy Reid:

"Having spent 8 years insisting that a president elected twice, who won by millions of votes, deserves neither respect nor cooperation, and having embraced and been enveloped by the farthest fringes of the right wing entertainment complex that drove their anti-Obamaism, Republicans are in no position to demand that the opposing party respect and cooperate with a guy who lost the popular vote by 2 million+. Democrats meanwhile, quite clearly have a moral obligation to defend the values, liberty and just plain safety, of their supporters. Republicans were preparing to be completely adversarial if Hillary Clinton won. They were gearing up to hound her into oblivion. It will be telling to see what Democrats are prepared to do in the face of violent attacks on their supporters, creeping kleptocracy & more. We're about to find out if we indeed have two political parties, or in the far right and far left's formulation, one bland layer of elites."


So true.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby MoBettle » Sat Nov 19, 2016 18:34:50

RE the Tea Party of the Left, beyond not wanting it to happen for political reasons, I also don't really think there's a unified "thing" that the far left wants anyway so it probably wouldn't work to the same degree. It's not like the right where they all want things to go back to what they think the 50s were like. It's one of the drawbacks to having a broad tent.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby wwry » Sat Nov 19, 2016 18:40:38

if the commies take control of the party all the regular dems will fall in line. it'll be good shit, trust me.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby td11 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 18:49:44

wwry wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:We aren't liberal enough is definitely why we lost the electoral college.

oh my god hillary got her ass beat by orange hitler and you're still doing this?

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby td11 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 18:51:34

wwry wrote:as long as center left dems and leftists cant unite theres going to be infighting forever. just hope whoever comes out on top of that fight can take our country back and clean up the mess/make it better.

In hindsight it seems crazy that Hillary ads focused on appealing to moderate republicans rather than leftists/the Bernie crowd
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Soren » Sat Nov 19, 2016 19:13:14

Continuously amazed at how the conservatives I interact with don't believe that anything that challenges a belief they have. Snopes is a liberal biased propaganda machine.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Sat Nov 19, 2016 19:19:38

it's amazing what a spineless chameleon Romney is. For those who praised him for standing up to Trump during the election, Romney has once again changed to meet the political winds.

The man has no moral compass.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Youseff » Sat Nov 19, 2016 19:20:21

Soren wrote:Continuously amazed at how the conservatives I interact with don't believe that anything that challenges a belief they have. Snopes is a liberal biased propaganda machine.


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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby ReadingPhilly » Sat Nov 19, 2016 19:29:54

Was legit loling at the Kentucky/ford thing. Amazing that this guy is leading our country until he isn't.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 19, 2016 22:31:12

Trump has met with his Indian business partners. Can we impeach him yet or?

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby JUburton » Sat Nov 19, 2016 22:33:56

not gonna happen until there are at least a few smoking guns.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Sat Nov 19, 2016 23:06:38

Look, I think if you are a liberal who thinks that we lost to Trump because we need more people to the hard left like you running for office more power to you, that certainly is a more comforting thought.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby wwry » Sat Nov 19, 2016 23:20:05

progressivism (is this a word) in this country is not the hard left and would generate enthusiasm among voters. donald trump ran on the same platform obama did of change just for awful and evil reasons. harnessing the energy of change and hope and progress is a good thing. especially when our country will be in the toilet 2-4 years from now.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby wwry » Sat Nov 19, 2016 23:23:39

also hillary was a bad candidate with too much dirt on her and notoriety. people would have voted for liz warren or joe biden or anyone else over trump if the field wasn't intentionally cleared for her years in advance. sorry i'll try to stop posting in this thread but i think critique of democrats is important so we can stop this from happening again.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby JUburton » Sat Nov 19, 2016 23:28:58

she lost (with what will be 1.5m to 2m more votes) because shes wonky, uninspiring, cashed in just a little too much (bill too, and not at all with the foundation or using state...but in legitimate ways), and her flaws were pretty abnormalized in the press. it wasn't because the way was paved for her. if she was a younger barack 2.0 who lost to him in 08, went to be secstate, and was 'groomed' and won in a landslide no one would give a shit that she was the establishment choice.

we did probably underestimate how much some people have gone out of their way to hate her and that was a mistake. she still won a legitimate primary, dnc wikileaks aside. nothing was stolen and nothing they did would have changed the outcome meaningfully.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby wwry » Sat Nov 19, 2016 23:30:45

i won't get in to this kind of fight on here about this because its unproductive now after the fact but i disagree. (about the field not being cleared for her) i agree with everything else. hopefully the popular vote aspect will be a motivator to vote against GOP.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby JUburton » Sat Nov 19, 2016 23:33:58

im not denying that a career politician wasn't the right choice in hindsight given the apparent temperament of the dumbfuck american public.

and elizabeth warren or joe biden could have run if they wanted to. i sincerely doubt that the dnc was stopping them.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby JUburton » Sat Nov 19, 2016 23:36:03

and i dont totally agree that its pointless as it helps us moving forward (i mean, not you and me, but democrats). but it's sort of pointless because there's not another hillary clinton so we're not going to have this issue to avoid in 3 years.

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