The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby JUburton » Wed Nov 16, 2016 09:45:09

only 69 ted cruz has ever accomplished

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Soren » Wed Nov 16, 2016 09:53:51

JUburton wrote:only 69 ted cruz has ever accomplished

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby JUburton » Wed Nov 16, 2016 09:54:57

i feel generally ok when i wake up and then i scroll through twitter and open the nyt/wapo and the ennui sets in again

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 16, 2016 09:57:32

I normally put these in the Reading Eagle thread but this is explicitly political and thought it had an interesting tidbit (the rest is garbage, imo):

Harry J. Deitz Jr. was correct that we need to come together as one nation ("The voices of We the People have spoken," Reading Eagle, Nov. 13). However, he did not explain how we do that.

We need to stop putting everyone into small groups that separate us from each other, as the progressive, leftist presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama have done for the last 24 years.

We need to stop looking at each other, and stop our government from looking at us, as hyphenated Americans. We should be just Americans first, foremost and always.

When we create a special interest group that gets special consideration from the government, we disassociate all those not in that group from any law or entitlement that the government bestows upon that group.

We need to stop looking at people as white, black, Latino, Asian, LGBT, Muslim, Evangelical Christian, pro-life, pro-choice, etc. Hillary Clinton came up with a new group, the Trump Deplorables. And the sad fact most people don't understand is that when they allow themselves to be put into one of these groups, it isolates them from the rest of the American populace.

We are a country of laws for everyone. We need to get back to the idea of "We the People" and away from the idea of, we the people of a special interest group that the professional politician needs to cater to for our vote to stay in office.

Wake up, America.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:04:46

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby PSUsarge » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:07:43

Soren wrote:I know we've discussed it ad nauseum but how did such ridiculous, baseless, hateful and conspiratorial thinking become the voice of a massive subset of the American populace? It's so weird/frustrating/upsetting/terrifying.
Because a massive subset of the American populace needs something/someone to blame for their plight and Trump gave them those somethings/someones in his rhetoric. Pretty simple.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Soren » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:13:35

pacino wrote:I normally put these in the Reading Eagle thread but this is explicitly political and thought it had an interesting tidbit (the rest is garbage, imo):

Harry J. Deitz Jr. was correct that we need to come together as one nation ("The voices of We the People have spoken," Reading Eagle, Nov. 13). However, he did not explain how we do that.

We need to stop putting everyone into small groups that separate us from each other, as the progressive, leftist presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama have done for the last 24 years.

We need to stop looking at each other, and stop our government from looking at us, as hyphenated Americans. We should be just Americans first, foremost and always.

When we create a special interest group that gets special consideration from the government, we disassociate all those not in that group from any law or entitlement that the government bestows upon that group.

We need to stop looking at people as white, black, Latino, Asian, LGBT, Muslim, Evangelical Christian, pro-life, pro-choice, etc. Hillary Clinton came up with a new group, the Trump Deplorables. And the sad fact most people don't understand is that when they allow themselves to be put into one of these groups, it isolates them from the rest of the American populace.

We are a country of laws for everyone. We need to get back to the idea of "We the People" and away from the idea of, we the people of a special interest group that the professional politician needs to cater to for our vote to stay in office.

Wake up, America.

Charles Loose
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George W Bush is now a leftist progressive. They've taken their deeply unpopular two-term conservative Republican president and written him off as a leftist.


This is amazing.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Soren » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:14:11

PSUsarge wrote:
Soren wrote:I know we've discussed it ad nauseum but how did such ridiculous, baseless, hateful and conspiratorial thinking become the voice of a massive subset of the American populace? It's so weird/frustrating/upsetting/terrifying.
Because a massive subset of the American populace needs something/someone to blame for their plight and Trump gave them those somethings/someones in his rhetoric. Pretty simple.


Yea but like, this predates Trump. He's the end game.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby thephan » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:15:11

Not so sure that this belongs in the political threat, but why not...

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:21:57

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby PSUsarge » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:26:58

Soren wrote:
PSUsarge wrote:
Soren wrote:I know we've discussed it ad nauseum but how did such ridiculous, baseless, hateful and conspiratorial thinking become the voice of a massive subset of the American populace? It's so weird/frustrating/upsetting/terrifying.
Because a massive subset of the American populace needs something/someone to blame for their plight and Trump gave them those somethings/someones in his rhetoric. Pretty simple.


Yea but like, this predates Trump. He's the end game.
Agreed with that. Re: the genesis of that thinking, a few factors IMO

1) The Internet gives people the ability to connect anonymously with like-minded people. This has both great and, in this case, horrible consequences.

2) Middle-aged rural and/or middle class white America is PISSED for a lot of reasons and finds it easier to simply blame "the illegals" or "Obama's America" or whatever instead of understanding why their manufacturing jobs have left and why their kids are ODing on heroin and fentanyl.

3) BLM and similar movements feed into distrust and conspiracy of police and government. Some of the distrust may be justified, but the consequences of that distrust are begetting worse consequences (i.e. police forces scaling back, causing more crime to occur).

4) In the past 15 years we've had 9/11, the ensuing "wars on terror," the 2008 crash, etc. Again, people needed to find something/someone to blame. Factor this with #2 and you have the Trump movement - racism, xenophobia, distrust of big corporations, etc.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby pacino » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:41:29

a challenge to Pelosi will likely come from the middle (of the country):
The riled-up lawmakers stopped short of calling for a change in leadership, but the two-week delay conceivably gives time for a challenger to emerge and lobby for support.

Rep. Tim Ryan (D) is weighing such a challenge. The 43-year-old Ohioan said Democrats need more regional diversity in leadership to appeal to a broader swath of the electorate — particularly the rural working-class voters whose steady shift toward Republicans in recent cycles helped lift Donald Trump to victory.

States like Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin “don’t have a lot of representation” relative to the coastal states, Ryan said.

“We lost those voters and we’ve gotta find a way to get them back in, and that starts with a message that resonates in the flyover states,” he said.

Ryan declined to say if he’d launch a leadership challenge, saying the first step in any decision was to delay the elections.

“We’re all having a conversation,” he said.

Pelosi would be the heavy favorite if a challenger emerged. She’s been Democratic leader since 2003, and her rise to Speaker in 2007 made her the most powerful elected woman in the nation’s history. She’s raised hundreds of millions of dollars for the party — money that trickles down to scores of rank-and-file members — and her reputation for uniting the party is unmatched.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby thephan » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:07:54

Nancy P should step back. If there is a change demanded, then she should orchestrate the perception of change by controlling some new blood, otherwise it is just the same old, same old that helped get the DNC where it is today.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:09:34

yeah, i would really prefer a change in leadership. outside of hillary and obama, she is probably the most conservatively meme'd dem. prefer those go away.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby Bucky » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:14:48

I think it's probable that this meme is what led to the ouster of the scourge of NJ.

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:40:57

President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, in his first remarks since the American election, has called President-elect Donald J. Trump “a natural ally, together with the Russians, Iranians and many other countries” in the struggle against terrorism.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:41:38

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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:44:05

Is it possible Trump is the Anti-Christ? Just trying to put the best face possible on all this.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby thephan » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:46:13

Cities and Local Law Enforcement that have pushed back on mass deportation have been labeled obstructionist. It is like a bad comedy that you cannot stop watching.
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Re: The kids aren't alt-right - a politics thread

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:46:33

JFLNYC wrote:Is it possible Trump is the Anti-Christ? Just trying to put the best face possible on all this.


That was Obama, he must be the anti-anti-Christ, not to confuse with the actual Christ.
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