JUburton wrote:Kris Kobach favored for AG. That is just great. He was instrumental in drafting that AZ anti immigrant law. He also is not a huge fan of (minority) voting rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Kobach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB_1070

Sam Stein ‏@samsteinhp
Sens Merkley and Hirona and Sen-elect Van Hollen formally calling for Bannon’s firing

Doll Is Mine wrote:

Soren wrote:Yea I'm sure comparing Trump internal politics to one of the most brutal dictators of all time is exactly what is going to help break down the barriers between liberals and moderate conservatives.

You're looking at it from a political view but this can not be politics as usual. Not with a potential authoritarian in the White House, who is already exhibiting troubling signs a week after his election.

MoBettle wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

Soren wrote:Yea I'm sure comparing Trump internal politics to one of the most brutal dictators of all time is exactly what is going to help break down the barriers between liberals and moderate conservatives.

You're looking at it from a political view but this can not be politics as usual. Not with a potential authoritarian in the White House, who is already exhibiting troubling signs a week after his election.

If it's really that unusual, why not explain what happened rather than resorting to hyperbole?

Soren wrote:Yea I'm sure comparing Trump internal politics to one of the most brutal dictators of all time is exactly what is going to help break down the barriers between liberals and moderate conservatives.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

Soren wrote:Yea I'm sure comparing Trump internal politics to one of the most brutal dictators of all time is exactly what is going to help break down the barriers between liberals and moderate conservatives.

Normally I'd agree, but this type of inflammatory rhetoric from conservatives worked for them. Maybe we should stop trying to be the only reasonable people in the room.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

Soren wrote:Yea I'm sure comparing Trump internal politics to one of the most brutal dictators of all time is exactly what is going to help break down the barriers between liberals and moderate conservatives.

Normally I'd agree, but this type of inflammatory rhetoric from conservatives worked for them. Maybe we should stop trying to be the only reasonable people in the room.

td11 wrote:haven't really heard from any board conservatives about how they're feeling about their Grand Ol Party...

Woody wrote:

pacino wrote:Slow progress:

For the third year in a row, global carbon emissions have remained flat, thanks in large part to declining emissions in China.
Carbon emissions from 2016 will only be about 0.2 percent more than in 2015, despite a steady 3 percent growth in the world’s economy, according to a new report from the Global Carbon Project. Before 2014, emissions were increasing at an average rate of 2.3 percent per year.
“This third year of almost no growth in emissions is unprecedented at a time of strong economic growth,” Corinne Le Quéré, Director of the Tyndall Centre at the University of East Anglia, said in a statement. “This is a great help for tackling climate change but it is not enough. Global emissions now need to decrease rapidly, not just stop growing.”

Too slow:

"Another year. Another record. The high temperatures we saw in 2015 are set to be beaten in 2016," said Petteri Taalas, the head of the World Meteorological Organization.

WMO's preliminary data through October showed world temperatures, boosted by the El Nino phenomenon, are 1.2 degrees Celsius (2.2 degrees Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels.

That's getting close to the limit set by the global climate agreement adopted in Paris last year. It calls for limiting the temperature rise since the industrial revolution to 2 degrees C or even 1.5 degrees C.

WMO said 16 of the 17 hottest years have occurred this century. The only exception was 1998, which was also an El Nino year.

I believe that almost no matter what we do now, global warming will still continue for decades. Any changes we implement now only help far down the road. Politics aside, that's part of the problem with getting people to take this shit seriously

jerseyhoya wrote:

td11 wrote:haven't really heard from any board conservatives about how they're feeling about their Grand Ol Party...

Why the fuck would anyone who is anything but 100% in line with opposing every aspect of Trump waste any time posting here given what you, soren, etc. have been posting in this thread? This is apparently not the time or place for nuance.

jerseyhoya wrote:

td11 wrote:haven't really heard from any board conservatives about how they're feeling about their Grand Ol Party...

Why the fuck would anyone who is anything but 100% in line with opposing every aspect of Trump waste any time posting here given what you, soren, etc. have been posting in this thread? This is apparently not the time or place for nuance.

pacino wrote:We finally get rid of medicare and aca. You should be happy, jh. You get 1-4 supreme Court justices. We're also going to give education 'back to the states' and do various other conservative hobby horses. Seems like a victory for conservatives.