slugsrbad wrote:he probably didn't mean most of what he said.
CalvinBall wrote:Woody wrote:CalvinBall wrote:literally makes no sense how this person won. what were they voting for??
For someone they perceived as having shared values the same as theirs (regardless of whether he actually does or just conned them all)
America has a massive class divide
i think his only moral is do whatever and say whatever it takes to win.
they wanted to get rid of the elites in washington and elected someone who bedazzles all the buildings he owns with his name in giant gold letters.
it is so incongruous it is beyond understanding. i say that with no hyperbole.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
CalvinBall wrote:Woody wrote:CalvinBall wrote:literally makes no sense how this person won. what were they voting for??
For someone they perceived as having shared values the same as theirs (regardless of whether he actually does or just conned them all)
America has a massive class divide
i think his only moral is do whatever and say whatever it takes to win.
they wanted to get rid of the elites in washington and elected someone who bedazzles all the buildings he owns with his name in giant gold letters.
it is so incongruous it is beyond understanding. i say that with no hyperbole.
pacino wrote:heyeaglefn wrote:thephan wrote:Speaking for me, I like that he brings his partisan view point. There is no guessing his stance for the most part, and he follows it up with reasoning, like it or not. That is a good thing otherwise it is an echo chamber.
He has flipped his stances more than any candidate I can ever remember.
he was elected on an openly racist platform. that will define every move he takes.
ah the ole harrison technique.CalvinBall wrote:maybe it is really cold on inauguration day and he gets pneumonia and dies.
CalvinBall wrote:imagine being part of jeff flake or john mccains office right now
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
pacino wrote:my mother is devastated
gr wrote:CalvinBall wrote:Woody wrote:CalvinBall wrote:literally makes no sense how this person won. what were they voting for??
For someone they perceived as having shared values the same as theirs (regardless of whether he actually does or just conned them all)
America has a massive class divide
i think his only moral is do whatever and say whatever it takes to win.
they wanted to get rid of the elites in washington and elected someone who bedazzles all the buildings he owns with his name in giant gold letters.
it is so incongruous it is beyond understanding. i say that with no hyperbole.
I think its incongruous because the choices were limited. Plenty of these voters, maybe most of them, would have voted for an outsider w scruples first, but lacking that choice they went w an outsider, regardless of him being a con-artist. What they didnt want was a 30 yr politician. Its fantasy world reasoning, but its not illogical.
It also shows that people maybe think who's president doesn't matter that much, which is true on some level (checks and balances etc), but obviously wrong on others.
Whats really disturbing is that the Dempcratic party peaked in 2008 and has been steadily sliding since and now appears to have been a mirage masked by the Presidents personal popularity. They got beat in downballot races where "big tv personalities" dont mean as much.
I realize voters can be dumb, but the party really needs to get it together for the 2018 midterms. It needs to build viable ground games in a bunch of states and make sure people turn out. Should be easier w 2 yrs of Trump to campaign on.
What wont get them there is complaining about voters tho. They lost millions of Obama votes this cycle. That part is their fault.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
Helen Ubiñas @NotesFromHeL 2h2 hours ago
It's 8:39 and already I've been called a cunt, a loser, a brown bitch, told to go fuck myself, kill myself and move to a Muslim country.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
Uncle Milty wrote:I generally stay out of the politics discussion but a great deal of this is history being on the side of the opposing party, especially after a 2 term President. Many other factors are in play but a look into the past could have predicted a Trump victory even if all the people with hate in their hearts stayed home and didn't vote.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.