We all have a responsibility to do what we can and put our necks on the line for all those who are subject to persecution overy the next four years. I am looking forward to lil vulture helping to vote four years from now for reviving our democracy.

Warszawa wrote:The funny thing is that republicans will now get a ton of things done during the next 4 years while people will look back at the Obama years as ineffectual.

RESULTS

you need to put Republicans in power to get government working again! All this gridlock showed us that much. Democrats just were too mean.

I'm at McDonald's (I really need to stop going here so often, but that's another story). There is a table of old white people gloating, one with a Trump hat being very loud ("The Cubs, The Cowboys, and now this! What a week!"). Also, all the white people here are on one side of the restaurant. All the black folks on the other.

At what point does Trump stealthily morph back into a NYC liberal

Warszawa wrote:The funny thing is that republicans will now get a ton of things done during the next 4 years while people will look back at the Obama years as ineffectual.

I hate to say it, but Obama's legacy is pretty much gone if the Republicans do what they say they want to do in the next 4 years.

pacino wrote:Iowa's unemployment rate is 3.8%. Michigan's is 5.4%. PA's is 5.4%. Wisconsin's is 4.4%

i'm not fully buying the idea that this is about the poor economy. real wages have gone up over the past year for the first time in YEARS. i look at the white/black/latino/asian breakdowns and i see a rather stark tale. i simply do.

they dont 'feel' those facts. they have been conned by the biggest con man to ever run in american politics.

"Yes, Trump won! Now we will get lower insurance rates!" <--- actual fb post

Slowhand wrote:I'm at McDonald's (I really need to stop going here so often, but that's another story). There is a table of old white people gloating, one with a Trump hat being very loud ("The Cubs, The Cowboys, and now this! What a week!"). Also, all the white people here are on one side of the restaurant. All the black folks on the other.

sit on the other side.

So lets be clear, JH is not terribly likely to be having a great day as he is no fan, so lighten up on that line. He has been a fairly transparent through and through, and it is laudable that he even bothers to engage with most of us in these threads.

Today is the first day of our next chapter and everyone has to be engaged so that what the US stands for remains true.

silver was 100% right. this 'they were all wrong!' is bullshit.

Woody wrote:At what point does Trump stealthily morph back into a NYC liberal

My biggest fear besides an impending apocalypse is that trump will be a puppet of the republican party

So the ACA is going to get repealed most likely in 2017, which means in 2021 we can implement a single-payer system.

JUburton wrote:silver was 100% right. this 'they were all wrong!' is bullshit.

Nate Silver is a motherfucking wizard

JUburton wrote:silver was 100% right. this 'they were all wrong!' is #$!&@.

it's little different than brexit. pollsters pegged brexit. people chose to ignore them. they ignored 538's 'good chance' forecast. This was the good chance.

slugsrbad wrote:So the ACA is going to get repealed most likely in 2017, which means in 2021 we can implement a single-payer system.

Assuming there are elections in 2021

literally makes no sense how this person won. what were they voting for??

Mark Murray ‏@mmurraypolitics 9h9 hours ago
In the national exit poll: Who do you think is qualified to be president?

Trump 38%
Clinton 52%

slugsrbad wrote:So the ACA is going to get repealed most likely in 2017, which means in 2021 we can implement a single-payer system.

it won't get fully repealed but a lot of it will go byebye quickly. which is probably more of a mess.

"But fighting for democracy is part of America’s heritage, from abolitionists to suffragettes to the progressive reformers. Maybe you thought that fight was confined to history. It will go on."

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... cracy.html

thephan wrote:So lets be clear, JH is not terribly likely to be having a great day as he is no fan, so lighten up on that line. He has been a fairly transparent through and through, and it is laudable that he even bothers to engage with most of us in these threads.

Today is the first day of our next chapter and everyone has to be engaged so that what the US stands for remains true.

in regards to level of blame he should it, it's exponentially lower than things like Hillary herself, how conspiracy oriented we are as a culture, white nationalism, the impact of globalism on middle America, etc., but I never got why you guys are so lovey dovey with a guy that works/ed for the GOP and literally helps enable all the awful shit they do.

gop yesterday: oh fuck, we're the party of trump...
gop today: oh fuck! we're the party of trump!