Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politics

Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:44:02

pacino wrote:Guilty verdict for Baroni and Kelly

I feel bad for them. I still think it was primarily Wildstein's idea and fault. And if it wasn't him, then Christie seems more likely to be culpable than either Baroni or Kelly.

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby pacino » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:45:15

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I don't know, before all the misinformation got so thick in the last few months, it didn't seem too controversial to assume that the server was hacked many times. many security experts (though often anonymous) said as much in multiple interviews and articles

If they were 100% sure they would have stated it. They've acknowledged when we've had hacks at various governemnt outlets.
It was a very stupid idea to set one up, but I don't think the outcome should be more than what has happened (a public shaming of the brazenness of it).
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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:49:13

pacino wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:I don't know, before all the misinformation got so thick in the last few months, it didn't seem too controversial to assume that the server was hacked many times. many security experts (though often anonymous) said as much in multiple interviews and articles

If they were 100% sure they would have stated it. They've acknowledged when we've had hacks at various governemnt outlets.

the whole argument has been that the private e-mail server was used mostly for personal or small potatoes administration stuff, that anything marked classified was hardly important or tangential. to now go above and beyond that and insist that the private server was also 100% secure and never exposed is unreasonable and unnecessary

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:49:56

You gotta love these headlines: "Two former officials linked to Christie..."

Kelly was his deputy chief of staff for God's sake. :lol:

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby pacino » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:52:29

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
pacino wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:I don't know, before all the misinformation got so thick in the last few months, it didn't seem too controversial to assume that the server was hacked many times. many security experts (though often anonymous) said as much in multiple interviews and articles

If they were 100% sure they would have stated it. They've acknowledged when we've had hacks at various governemnt outlets.

the whole argument has been that the private e-mail server was used mostly for personal or small potatoes administration stuff, that anything marked classified was hardly important or tangential. to now go above and beyond that and insist that the private server was also 100% secure and never exposed is unreasonable and unnecessary

All I stated was if they DOJ/FBI knew they'd have actually said so. Stuff leaked a few days before an election ia stuff that *likely* didn't pass the test to actually state publicly.
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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:53:02

thephan wrote:I am imagining that the "FBI" report that it is "99% sure" that the email server was hacked "at least 9 times" by "at least 5 foreign services" is completely made up. I saw no credible sources, but it apparently made its way from internet lore to FOX News last night.

Nothing to see here, or correct me.


I'm 99% sure that the servers at every government agency have been hacked at least 9 times by at least 5 foreign services.
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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby Eem » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:53:35

Some really good polls for Clinton today.

PPP:
—NH: Clinton 48-43
—NV: Clinton 48-45
—WI: Clinton 48-41
—PA: Clinton 48-44
—NC: Clinton 49-47
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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:57:27

Eem wrote:Some really good polls for Clinton today.

PPP:
—NH: Clinton 48-43
—NV: Clinton 48-45
—WI: Clinton 48-41
—PA: Clinton 48-44
—NC: Clinton 49-47


Also, Dem Senate candidates McGinty, Cortez Masto, Feingold, & Hassan leading in those polls.

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:00:56

According to Kellyane Conway, Clinton's attacks on Trump are "sadder because they're coming from a woman".

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:01:02

I think the SEPTA union should pause the strike on election day at least.
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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:12:27

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls 9m9 minutes ago Raleigh, NC
In Wisconsin we found Hillary leading 60/34 among early voters

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls 10m10 minutes ago Raleigh, NC
In North Carolina we found Hillary leading 59/40 among early voters

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls 10m10 minutes ago Raleigh, NC
In Nevada we found Hillary leading 54/44 among early voters

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:16:00

Doll Is Mine wrote:
Eem wrote:Some really good polls for Clinton today.

PPP:
—NH: Clinton 48-43
—NV: Clinton 48-45
—WI: Clinton 48-41
—PA: Clinton 48-44
—NC: Clinton 49-47


Also, Dem Senate candidates McGinty, Cortez Masto, Feingold, & Hassan leading in those polls.


lets gooooo

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:16:40

pacino wrote:Chris Christie is choosing appointments for Donald Trump's transition team.


he will pick the best people, believe me

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby pacino » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:18:43

Wage growth has outpaced CPI growth since 2015.
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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby jamiethekiller » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:23:09

TenuredVulture wrote:I think the SEPTA union should pause the strike on election day at least.

think i heard this morning that they're going for a temporary injunction for the day

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:24:39

jamiethekiller wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:I think the SEPTA union should pause the strike on election day at least.

think i heard this morning that they're going for a temporary injunction for the day


still think that will suck. some people wont know that septa will be open that day and just not go vote.

my polling place is a block and a half away though, so hopefully that is the case for a lot of people.

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:25:53

CalvinBall wrote:
jamiethekiller wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:I think the SEPTA union should pause the strike on election day at least.

think i heard this morning that they're going for a temporary injunction for the day


still think that will suck. some people wont know that septa will be open that day and just not go vote.

my polling place is a block and a half away though, so hopefully that is the case for a lot of people.



yeh, I would think people would vote close to home. Maybe it even helps because some people won't travel and may have the chance to vote. Or not
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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:27:13

For the first time I'm genuinely concerned. This is RCP's current "No Tossup" map:

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Although it gives HRC the win, if Florida were to go red, Trump would win 270-268. This is in large part due to their currently giving NV and NH to Trump, too, but it's still very, very scary. They've got HRC only up 1.2% in FL.
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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby CFP » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:28:02

JFLNYC wrote:For the first time I'm genuinely concerned. This is RCP's current "No Tossup" map:

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Although it give HRC the win, if Florida were to go red, Trump would win 270-268. This is in large part due to their currently giving NV and NH to Trump, too, but it's still very, very scary. They've got HRC only up 1.2% in FL.


I mean, they also gave NC to him too, and that doesn't seem like some sort of lock.

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Re: Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politic

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:30:53

It's not a lock either way, but neither is FL for HRC. The point is that, at the moment, their polling averages say that, if Trump flips FL, he wins.
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