Puppets For Donald, Two Weeks Until The Rapture, Politics

by **Youseff** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 21:19:14

this will make you feel better if you've wet your pantaloons recently

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... &smtyp=cur

by **Youseff** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 21:20:16

the Alex Jones party has another candidate speculating how it would be cool if Hillary was murdered

Sen. Richard Burr privately mused over the weekend that gun owners may want to put a "bullseye" on Hillary Clinton, according to audio obtained by CNN.

The North Carolina Republican, locked in a tight race for reelection, quipped that as he walked into a gun shop "nothing made me feel better" than seeing a magazine about rifles "with a picture of Hillary Clinton on the front of it."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/31/politics/ ... index.html

by **JUburton** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 21:21:46

Youseff wrote:this will make you feel better if you've wet your pantaloons recently

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... &smtyp=cur

Yeah, PA, VA, WI, NH, CO (and MI but not on there) has always been the firewall. Everything else is contingency or icing.

by **Polar Bear Phan** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 21:31:16

Maybe Comey does plan to announce a Trump investigation and the Clinton thing was to cover all bases (for Hatch Act purposes).

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 21:39:00

Ny Times now got a leak saying 'US officials' don't believe there's a direct link.

by **Polar Bear Phan** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 21:49:44

On a different thought, I think you could make a statistical argument that Clinton supporters in Utah should probably vote for McMullin. Trump's path is so narrow that those 6 electoral votes eliminate some New Hampshire backdoor win options for Trump.

by **Youseff** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 22:07:26

I hope these last two stories are just jabs to set up a mean cross.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 22:25:42

NYT pours some cold water on some of the Trump/Russia stuff, though not exactly a flattering story for him.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 23:05:19

PollingReport.com ‏@pollreport
ALASKA
President:
Clinton (D) 36%
Trump (R) 33%
Johnson (L) 6%
Stein (G) 3%
Other, unsure 23%
(Craciun Research, LV, 10/21-26)

by **Doll Is Mine** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 23:07:20

More from that Burr private speech.

John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood
Burr on SCOTUS vacancy: "if Clinton becomes president I am going to do everything to make sure 4 years from now we've still got an opening"

Sen Burr on Trump: "he aligns perfectly with where the Republican Party is"

by **Stay_Disappointed** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 00:10:28

Doll Is Mine wrote:More from that Burr private speech.

John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood
Burr on SCOTUS vacancy: "if Clinton becomes president I am going to do everything to make sure 4 years from now we've still got an opening"

Sen Burr on Trump: "he aligns perfectly with where the Republican Party is"

Obviously both are big assholes

by **MoBettle** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 00:21:19

Polar Bear Phan wrote:On a different thought, I think you could make a statistical argument that Clinton supporters in Utah should probably vote for McMullin. Trump's path is so narrow that those 6 electoral votes eliminate some New Hampshire backdoor win options for Trump.

Ehhh at the end of the day Clinton has to get to 270, not just get more electoral votes, and McMullins winning Utah does nothing for her there. McMullin winning is about embarrassing Trump/the GOP.

by **meatball** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 00:32:51

So, I'm voting mickey or...? Just tell me what to do. It's not often my vote counts here.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 01:37:40

One week to go.

by **Polar Bear Phan** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 01:49:08

MoBettle wrote:
Polar Bear Phan wrote:On a different thought, I think you could make a statistical argument that Clinton supporters in Utah should probably vote for McMullin. Trump's path is so narrow that those 6 electoral votes eliminate some New Hampshire backdoor win options for Trump.

Ehhh at the end of the day Clinton has to get to 270, not just get more electoral votes, and McMullins winning Utah does nothing for her there. McMullin winning is about embarrassing Trump/the GOP.

Pretty sure Trump's chances drop to near zero if he has the most electoral votes (but, shy of 270) and loses the popular vote. I think some sort of weird compromise is reached and either Clinton or McMullin is President, although he/she probably have little control over SCOTUS nominees (i.e. the compromise).

Of course, Clinton could also just win North Carolina to eliminate these scenarios. It's very hard to see a Trump path to victory without North Carolina.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 02:27:13

So now Hillary doesn't get to 270 if McMullin wins Utah?

Jesus. This election needs to end because we're all getting dumber I think.

by **Polar Bear Phan** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 03:13:26

Doll Is Mine wrote:So now Hillary doesn't get to 270 if McMullin wins Utah?

Jesus. This election needs to end because we're all getting dumber I think.

Um, you've obviously never studied game theory. You've gotta think like a nerd, man. :wink:

538 has over a 10% chance that Clinton wins the popular vote but has 269 or fewer electoral votes (and I'd assume any scenario where Clinton wins Utah outright has her winning well over 300 electoral votes). As such, it may make statistical sense for Clinton supporters in Utah to try to block Trump (by voting McMullin) because there's a chance this throws the election into the House--rather than having Trump win narrowly outright. In the House, a compromise could be reached that would see Clinton become President when she would've otherwise lost--or a compromise that seriously weakens Trump.

by **pacino** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 08:06:24

3 of 14 house seats are being contested in Berks County. The rest are all people running unopposed. Both of the two senate candidates up for re-election are also running unopposed.

by **pacino** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 08:14:09

new F&M poll for PA: Clinton 49 Trump 38 Johnson 4 Stein 2
McGinty 47 Toomey 35
they have this caveat:

Although our estimated vote of 47% for Mrs. McGinty
is in line with other recently published polls, Senator Toomey is underperforming those numbers.
We encourage readers to interpret these results with caution and in the context of other recent
polling.

Historically this has been a very accurate poll for PA

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Nov 01, 2016 08:15:02

ONE WEEK TO GO

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