Orange is the new whack (politics)

Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 08:57:46

CalvinBall wrote:well he just keeps harping on semantics. "he didnt literally say he wont accept the results!" and "the hypocrisy! look at al gore!!"

Unfuckingbelievable. Because following the legal process for a recount is the same thing as what Trump said last night.

Fuck Joe Scarborough.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby slugsrbad » Thu Oct 20, 2016 08:59:27

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Gary Johnson everybody!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

Longtime state Sen. Stuart Ingle (R) recalled how Johnson, soon after taking office in 1995, mostly shrugged and stared during their first meeting together. As Ingle asked Johnson questions about his agenda, Ingle said, Johnson’s most common refrain was, “I don’t know.”

At the end of the meeting, Ingle said, Johnson revealed the one position on which he would hold firm: The state’s budget should not grow. And if legislation to do so passed, the new governor added, “I will veto it.”

Over the next eight years, New Mexico lawmakers would struggle to work with a governor who paid little attention to details. Those who worked closely with Johnson, then a Republican elected as a political novice vowing to shake up the established order, recall a chief executive who would speed through meetings and often preferred to discuss his fitness routine than focus on the minutiae of policymaking.



Johnson’s seemingly dismissive approach garnered him the nickname “Governor No.” In his first year in office, he vetoed 47 percent of the bills the legislature passed. Lawmakers took Johnson to court at least three times for overstepping his bounds — and won.

“A know-it-all dictator,” is how the late state representative Jerry Lee Alwin, a conservative Republican, described Johnson to the news media at the time. “He just doesn’t listen.”

Johnson shrugged off the criticism. He noted that any lawmaker was able to come speak with him during his “Open Door After Four” sessions, which offered any member of the public — not just politicians — a chance to make an appointment.

Those sessions were held once a month. Meetings lasted no longer than five minutes — a sufficient amount of time, Johnson said, for him to grasp the issues.

“I can figure things out; I have good instincts,” he told The Post. “I think I was born with an overdose of common sense.”
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 08:59:47

Thanks I just found it too.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Werthless » Thu Oct 20, 2016 09:17:12

Yay! Thanks everyone. It really was an eye-opener to read.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Oct 20, 2016 09:23:16

“I can figure things out; I have good instincts,” he told The Post. “I think I was born with an overdose of common sense.”

sounds familiar
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby traderdave » Thu Oct 20, 2016 09:28:12

pacino wrote:George HW Bush's letter to Bill Clinton in 1992:

Dear Bill,

When I walked into this office just now I felt the same sense of wonder and respect that I felt four years ago. I know you will feel that, too.

I wish you great happiness here. I never felt the loneliness some Presidents have described.

There will be very tough times, made even more difficult by criticism you may not think is fair. I’m not a very good one to give advice; but just don’t let the critics discourage you or push you off course.

You will be our President when you read this note. I wish you well. I wish your family well.

Your success is now our country’s success. I am rooting for you.

Good luck,

George


Not sure I ever saw this before; incredible stuff. God willing, Donald Trump will never get a chance to either read or write such a letter.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Oct 20, 2016 09:37:41

traderdave wrote:
pacino wrote:George HW Bush's letter to Bill Clinton in 1992:

Dear Bill,

When I walked into this office just now I felt the same sense of wonder and respect that I felt four years ago. I know you will feel that, too.

I wish you great happiness here. I never felt the loneliness some Presidents have described.

There will be very tough times, made even more difficult by criticism you may not think is fair. I’m not a very good one to give advice; but just don’t let the critics discourage you or push you off course.

You will be our President when you read this note. I wish you well. I wish your family well.

Your success is now our country’s success. I am rooting for you.

Good luck,

George


Not sure I ever saw this before; incredible stuff. God willing, Donald Trump will never get a chance to either read or write such a letter.

"You're a loser. You rigged the election. Our country is going to hell BIG LEAGUE when you are in charge."
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 09:38:31

traderdave wrote:
pacino wrote:George HW Bush's letter to Bill Clinton in 1992:

Dear Bill,

When I walked into this office just now I felt the same sense of wonder and respect that I felt four years ago. I know you will feel that, too.

I wish you great happiness here. I never felt the loneliness some Presidents have described.

There will be very tough times, made even more difficult by criticism you may not think is fair. I’m not a very good one to give advice; but just don’t let the critics discourage you or push you off course.

You will be our President when you read this note. I wish you well. I wish your family well.

Your success is now our country’s success. I am rooting for you.

Good luck,

George


Not sure I ever saw this before; incredible stuff. God willing, Donald Trump will never get a chance to either read or write such a letter.

Yeah I've seen this at least a dozen times over the years. It really is a remarkable anecdote.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 09:41:48

Betsy McCaughey is going on and on and on about voter fraud. Everyone elected is part of the conspiracy... SHE WAY ELECTED! WTF! She is part of the problem, but not this one.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby slugsrbad » Thu Oct 20, 2016 09:47:16

I tried to see if there was a letter form Clinton to George W or George W to Obama, but couldn't find it. I did find this from the opening to W's Presidential Center. More feel goods.

http://theweek.com/articles/465064/11-n ... bush-today
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Oct 20, 2016 09:51:04

they gave letters but i'm not sure they're public yet.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Youseff » Thu Oct 20, 2016 09:57:51

it's crazy how differently the bases judge their candidate. if Hillary interrupted Trump with this toddler response, or said "wrong," at least a half a dozen times, or rambled incoherently I don't think most of them would be very gung-ho about her performance.

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status ... 0609243136
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:04:18

Youseff wrote:it's crazy how differently the bases judge their candidate. if Hillary interrupted Trump with this toddler response, or said "wrong," at least a half a dozen times, or rambled incoherently I don't think most of them would be very gung-ho about her performance.

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status ... 0609243136

Honestly that isn't just limited to their bases. The overwhelming majority of the country would just say "bitch" if she dared interrupt a male candidate repeatedly.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Youseff » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:08:38

slugsrbad wrote:I tried to see if there was a letter form Clinton to George W or George W to Obama, but couldn't find it. I did find this from the opening to W's Presidential Center. More feel goods.

http://theweek.com/articles/465064/11-n ... bush-today


Clinton:
3. "A couple of times a year and in the second term, George Bush would call me just to talk politics. And a chill went up and down my spine when Laura said that all the records were digitized. Dear God I hope there's no record of those conversations."


that one is weird.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:16:58

I don't think its too weird. Second term, lame duck, looking at his legacy, shooting the bull about who is hard to work with some unguarded frank talk, some bitching about presidential realities (not sure what that is, but it seem logical that the Presidency is a bit of a prison sentence with all the restrictions), some justice that is just a flake, etc., who knows. These could be discussion that no one ever considered public material.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Eem » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:24:20

I didn't watch the debate but I still can't stop laughing about BAD HOMBRES
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Bucky » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:28:37

thephan wrote:I don't think its too weird. Second term, lame duck, looking at his legacy, shooting the bull about who is hard to work with some unguarded frank talk, some bitching about presidential realities (not sure what that is, but it seem logical that the Presidency is a bit of a prison sentence with all the restrictions), some justice that is just a flake, etc., who knows. These could be discussion that no one ever considered public material.



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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:33:08

Philippines President announce in China to China that he is separating militarily and economically from the US. So that is a topic given our mutual defense treaty, and China desire to own that whole part of the world.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Youseff » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:34:15

thephan wrote:I don't think its too weird. Second term, lame duck, looking at his legacy, shooting the bull about who is hard to work with some unguarded frank talk, some bitching about presidential realities (not sure what that is, but it seem logical that the Presidency is a bit of a prison sentence with all the restrictions), some justice that is just a flake, etc., who knows. These could be discussion that no one ever considered public material.


it's just creepy because bill & W are a little creepy in general. but yeah, their doesn't seem to be a confluence of their flaws as humans. Bill is a pervert and likely more corrupt, whereas George was more delusional in his righteousness.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:47:27

legit LOL casting your comments as a possible dinner party. 'We can have Bill or W over for dinner at the house... want to eat out tonight instead?'
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