Orange is the new whack (politics)

by **Bucky** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 13:33:10

i didn't realize gravediggers were excluded from our electorate process

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 13:35:09

Bucky wrote:i didn't realize gravediggers were excluded from our electorate process

They can participate if the dig their own grave, e.g., Trump.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 13:35:16

This series of tweets is pretty cool for history/science/politics nerds:

Nick Baumann @NickBaumann
See blue belt on Obama/Romney map? That's Cretaceous coastline. Fertile soil later led to high cotton production + high slave population.

Nick Baumann @NickBaumann
Behold: n.pr/2dqLbkK

by **CalvinBall** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 13:42:36

i remember that being takled abotu in 2012. baumann fella trying to pass it off as his discovery. pft.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 13:54:39

Katy Tur ‏@KatyTurNBC
More Trump Debate Guests: Amb Chris Stevens' fiance, "Lone Survivor" Marcus Luttrell, 4 Angel Moms, Malik Obama, Pat Smith.

This guy is such a fool.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 13:58:40

by **MoBettle** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 13:59:20

Is that really all he's got? Figured he would have something really bat shit for the last debate.

by **Woody** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 14:02:13

MoBettle wrote:Is that really all he's got? Figured he would have something really bat shit for the last debate.

/pushes squeaky wheelbarow on stage, dumps out Vince Foster's bones

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 14:06:35

JFLNYC wrote:The Presidential candidate favored by millions:

I'm perfectly happy with the direction of the election as my preferred candidate will be winning with relative ease, but I have to wonder: what if Gary Johnson were actually competent? This will always be the woulda/coulda/shoulda moment for the Libertarian Party I think.

by **pacino** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 14:13:34

Doll Is Mine wrote:
Katy Tur ‏@KatyTurNBC
More Trump Debate Guests: Amb Chris Stevens' fiance, "Lone Survivor" Marcus Luttrell, 4 Angel Moms, Malik Obama, Pat Smith.

This guy is such a fool.

by **pacino** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 14:14:51

fwiw, she was his fiance 20 years ago. He had a family and they don't blame Clinton.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 14:56:55

pacino wrote:fwiw, she was his fiance 20 years ago. He had a family and they don't blame Clinton.

She's a model and actress and--not coincidentally--her book on Benghazi came out six weeks ago. Capitalizing on the murder of a man to whom you were engaged 20 years ago is about as low as it gets.

http://conservativetribune.com/amb-stevens-fiancee-book/

BTW, I wonder if Trump will mention that Ambassador Stevens was openly gay when he identifies his ex-fiance?

by **CalvinBall** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 15:13:07

UTAH Topline
@Evan_McMullin 31%
@realDonaldTrump 27%
@HillaryClinton 24%
@GovGaryJohnson 5%
Undecided 12%
Results at http://theecps.com

by **Doll Is Mine** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 15:20:11

I'm seeing a lot of talk on Twitter by the media that Paul Ryan might be in trouble on Election Day if Trump supporters don't vote for him.

Is this true?

by **Youseff** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 15:20:24

TenuredVulture wrote:The problem isn't as much principle over pragmatism, but rather the idea that principle is enough by itself. Occupy Wall Street accomplished exactly nothing--it did not identify left candidates who could challenge established Democrats in primaries, it paid no attention to state politics, and in general was a stupid waste. Just like voting for Jill Stein is a stupid waste. This young person ought to run for something, or encourage some other idealistic person to run for something in a Democratic primary and then actually have a chance of winning an office. That's how the system works, that's how change happens.

The other thing about young people in addition to idealism is they are impatient. The strategy that will work will take time and effort.

Also, if you pay any attention to who Jill Stein actually is, she is not Bernie Sanders. She's a lunatic and as unqualified for Potus as Trump.

they didn't directly impact any legislation but protest is a demonstrably viable way of influencing public opinion and the zeitgeist. I think you could argue Bernie was given a larger platform because those Zuccotti park kids built part of that stage.

by **Youseff** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 15:23:01

TenuredVulture wrote:And there are probably local offices that could be targeted by a third party, but I still think the more effective strategy would be through the Democratic party. That's how the Tea Party succeeded in moving the Republican Party far to the right--if nothing else, the Tea Party showed how tenuous the establishment's grip on the party apparatus really is.

I was thinking about this last night. There's a certain segment of Bernie voters that offer the same poor critical thinking skills as most Trump supporters. how do you bring them into the party but ensure the Dems don't nominate Alan Grayson or Michael Moore in 4 years?

by **Doll Is Mine** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 15:23:21

Paul Ryan favorability rating among TRUMP VOTERS

Last week: +8
This week: -36

Paul Ryan UNFAVORABLE opinions among

Clinton voters – 61%
Trump voters – 64%

By GOP primary vote:

Trump
10/8: -10
10/18: -40

Non-Trump
10/8: +44
10/18: -1

by **Doll Is Mine** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 15:26:41

MonmouthPoll @MonmouthPoll
BREAKING: Wisconsin
HRC 47
DJT 40
GJ 6

#WISen
Feingold 52
Johnson 44

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 15:41:06

CalvinBall wrote:
UTAH Topline
@Evan_McMullin 31%
@realDonaldTrump 27%
@HillaryClinton 24%
@GovGaryJohnson 5%
Undecided 12%
Results at http://theecps.com

Emerson is hot garbage but it's plausible and amazing

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 15:41:32

Doll Is Mine wrote:I'm seeing a lot of talk on Twitter by the media that Paul Ryan might be in trouble on Election Day if Trump supporters don't vote for him.

Is this true?

No

I mean, he would be in trouble if Trump supporters don't vote for him. But he's not in trouble.

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