Orange is the new whack (politics)

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:02:25

MoBettle wrote:Shep Smith came out to refute report that Ailes urged him not to.

i honestly didn't know he was 'in'

by **thephan** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:05:24

wwry wrote:its weird they added a swastika too

well, this is just an indictment of 'no child left behind' as they needed the icon to help people understand and assure that they were not left behind in that particular brand of hate.

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:12:33

pacino wrote:
MoBettle wrote:Shep Smith came out to refute report that Ailes urged him not to.

i honestly didn't know he was 'in'

Yea, I assumed it was common knowledge. I did not know he was publicly closeted. I always liked him when I forced myself to watch Fox News in college.

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:14:12

North Carolina's medicaid gap affects 300,000 of its own citizens.

by **Eem** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:20:29

Looking at a map, it's really hard to envision a scenario in which Trump can win. At this point he can will all of OH, FL, NC, and AZ and not win the election (and he's not winning all of those states). He can win all four of them AND flip ME or NH and it'd still be possible he loses (or a deadlock)

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:30:53

Pennsylvanians may need an alternative, secure form of identification to get into federal facilities starting Jan. 30 because of a state law barring compliance with the federal REAL ID Act.

Gov. Tom Wolf's administration said Thursday that the federal Department of Homeland Security put the state on notice this week. A 2012 state law prohibits Pennsylvania from participating in the 2005 federal law's requirements. The Real ID Act set national standards for driver's licenses and other IDs used for boarding commercial flights and entering federal buildings in an effort to fight terrorism.

Pennsylvania must comply or provide a reason why an extension to comply should be granted. The only exception is to apply for or receive federal benefits. In 2018, Pennsylvanians could need an alternative form of identification to board a commercial flight.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:36:20

pacino wrote:North Carolina's medicaid gap affects 300,000 of its own citizens.

pretty sure I've moved about 1/2 dozen Tarheels from arch R Trump support to I'm With Her on this issue alone using only the internets

by **thephan** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:37:35

Quick hits:

#1 - 10% of latinos in Nevada are planning to vote for Johnson according to polling. Say what?

#2 - Trump wants a pre-debate drug test per his latest speaking out loud. I though this was a joke last week that you all made up.

#3 - 88 Trump vs 52 Clinton for events so far. That +36 for the orange menace that is his hit line. Of course the numbers of people that show give pause to the Trump by number @ rallies polling. Silly, yes, but its there.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:39:29

thephan wrote:Quick hits:

#1 - 10% of latinos in Nevada are planning to vote for Johnson according to polling. Say what?

10% of Latinos in a Nevada poll is probably like 12 people

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:52:27

JUburton wrote:And how great is this: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/o ... ing-229868

Obama and Holder going to focus on gerrymandering at the most grassroots levels once Obama leaves office.

that's fantastic. I'd also like to see them focus on state governments because that's where Reps are making most of their progress. Cut ALEC off at the knees.

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:55:46

Youseff wrote:feel like this "Nazi Republicans" graffiti is a bit on the nose

I thought the same thing. We'll see.

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:02:14

Re pre-debate drug tests, I think Clinton should say it's not going far enough. They should also do pre-debate psychiatric tests.

by **thephan** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:05:37

Not complying with RealID is stupid. I worked in that world for a while and the items put in place raise the bar on the security of a default national ID. Sure, we don't have one, we just have this plastic (polycarbonate in many cases) cards that behave exactly like one would. Standardization of security feature, and having X number (you don't need them all), changes the game on counterfeiting to a place of significant difficulty. Pricing out legitimate enough ID replication is the game. As these become machine readable, and verifiable, it quickly becomes an impossibility.

So why would a state 'opt-out'? Well, it is all political showmanship. Although I have been away for a good while, most 'non-compliant' states generally came up just 1 security feature short, it does not matter which one, so that they can make the political claim of keeping 'big government' out of your wallet.

So, stop being stupid and get that ID up to par. You've only had 11 years to figure it out and plenty of time to repeal a terrible, headline grabbing law.

<<Edit - most of the uproar has been over data sharing, and some of it pins data control (wrongly) on a commercial vendor. The vendor does not host, manage or permanently possess the data. The state to state/state to government data sharing, in my estimation, could be culled in a zillion ways so it should not even be considered legitimate.>>

by **Eem** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:11:20

Latest Monmouth:

Clinton 50%
Trump 38%

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:13:14

we're dealing with this guy, phan:

Act 38 was sponsored by state Sen. Mike Folmer, a Lebanon County Republican.
Folmer said that he favored the ban largely because he thinks putting the personal information of every driver in the country into one database would be too risky.
"It would be even more of a target for hackers," Folmer said.
Homeland Security said that it is not creating a federal database of driver's license information though, and that each jurisdiction "continues to issue its own unique license, maintains its own records, and controls who gets access to those records and under what circumstances."
"The purpose of REAL ID is to make our identity documents more consistent and secure," according to the Homeland Security website.
Folmer also said the cost would be high, taking away taxpayer money that could be better spent elsewhere.
"It's an unfunded federal mandate," he said.
In addition, Folmer said that with Pennsylvania's licensing system already being so secure, he didn't understand how the Real IDs improve safety or help in screening potential terrorists.
"How would this (Real ID) card show the evil intent in someone's heart?" he said.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:14:59

Eem wrote:Latest Monmouth:

Clinton 50%
Trump 38%

MonmouthPoll @MonmouthPoll
BREAKING: National
LV: HRC 50 / DJT 38
RV: HRC 47 / DJT 38

62% say allegations agst Trump likely true

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... US_101716/ …

by **Doll Is Mine** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:17:00

Patrick Svitek ‏@PatrickSvitek
Just in: @HillaryClinton's campaign is launching a one-week ad buy in Texas, per an aide.

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:19:37

I would assume* the gap in RV vs LV is that there are registered Dems making noise towards Stein, but when you look at people likely to vote, the percentage shifts to Hillary. I think it's alarming (for him) that Donald's number doesn't move at all. He's back at his 40% ceiling. All he can do is get his base, he is such a failed, miserable, disgrace of a human being.

*I didn't read the poll, nor do I know how polls work. Please correct me JH or someone else.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:20:25

incredible.

by **pacino** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:22:18

Doll Is Mine wrote:
Patrick Svitek ‏@PatrickSvitek
Just in: @HillaryClinton's campaign is launching a one-week ad buy in Texas, per an aide.

this is the Democrat's white whale. The demographics are swaying towards them but the registration gap is stark. They pinned their hopes on Wendy Davis, for example, but it was way too early. Perhaps the fear of Donald Trump may push it along faster. If they could somehow break Texas away from being a Republican stronghold, it all changes.

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