JFLNYC wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Most people only get snippets of news, and if they're a soft Trump supporter, it might not have anything to do with them wanting to fillet Mexicans and Muslims.

Is there such a thing as a soft Trump supporter? I sure haven't met one.

This morning's CNN poll in PA-

Clinton, mind made up 37%
Clinton, could change mind 7%
Trump, mind made up 35%
Trump, could change mind 8%
Johnson, mind made up 3%
Johnson, could change mind 5%
Stein, mind made up 2%
Stein, could change mind 2%

I assume that's all self-reporting, right?

Houshphandzadeh wrote:it will be difficult and the double standard is real, but I think there's an opening for Hilldawg to put a hurting on him tonight if she has a good performance

jerseyhoya wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Most people only get snippets of news, and if they're a soft Trump supporter, it might not have anything to do with them wanting to fillet Mexicans and Muslims.

Is there such a thing as a soft Trump supporter? I sure haven't met one.

This morning's CNN poll in PA-

Clinton, mind made up 37%
Clinton, could change mind 7%
Trump, mind made up 35%
Trump, could change mind 8%
Johnson, mind made up 3%
Johnson, could change mind 5%
Stein, mind made up 2%
Stein, could change mind 2%

I assume that's all self-reporting, right?

They haven't invented polling via mind reading.

jamiethekiller wrote:its really hard to debate a child.

jerseyhoya wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:Clinton, mind made up 37%
Clinton, could change mind 7%
Trump, mind made up 35%
Trump, could change mind 8%
Johnson, mind made up 3%
Johnson, could change mind 5%
Stein, mind made up 2%
Stein, could change mind 2%

I assume that's all self-reporting, right?

jerseyhoya wrote:I think panicking is probably the correct course of action if it makes you do something. If it's just gonna keep you up at night, go read Plouffe, who at this point is poised to have a Rove 2012 moment denying Trump has won on Election Night. I mean, she *is* still likely to win, and public polling *is* terrible, but the idea of her losing is certainly a lot more real than it was a few weeks ago. I don't think it's helpful from the perspective of making sure Hillary wins to keep telling people she's got it in the bag.

There is a sense of "this couldn't possibly happen because he's so awful" and it encourages complacency. You look at the head to head and 4-way ballots, and especially among younger voters she's dropping off significantly. I think a lot of us live and exist in social circles where we know very few people who are actively supporting Trump, so it makes the idea of him winning seem ludicrous and the appeal of voting 3rd party or not voting stronger. During the primary, the donor class and the candidates all spun their wheels fighting battles that were ultimately meaningless because everyone assumed "this couldn't possibly happen because he's so awful" until it was too late to stop. There are 6 weeks. Most of you live in one of the 2-3 most important swing states in the country. Talk to friends/family/coworkers whom you think are persuadable. Don't be a condescending dick about it. Most people only get snippets of news, and if they're a soft Trump supporter, it might not have anything to do with them wanting to fillet Mexicans and Muslims. There's a lot more fluidity in the electorate than usual this year given the unpopularity of both major party candidates. Encourage GOP leaning types to think about why the Bushes and Mitt Romney don't trust Trump in the White House. Ask your 21 year old pothead cousin who is voting Johnson because they're all the same, man, who of the people who actually have a chance at winning is more likely to reclassify or decriminalize pot. Suggest people look at fact checks on issues they care about to see how Trump has been all over the goddamn place on everything.

Jon Lovett @jonlovett
When I get nervous, I remember Hillary had Philippe play Trump, which is just perfect. The role he was born to play. It's his Walter White.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:it will be difficult and the double standard is real, but I think there's an opening for Hilldawg to put a hurting on him tonight if she has a good performance

Unfortunately a good chunk of the audience will going full-on Homer Simpson, shouting "BORING" anytime she goes into policy details. So she has to make him look frivolous AND give those people a few highlight moments by channeling some Obama/Biden energy.

CalvinBall wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:it will be difficult and the double standard is real, but I think there's an opening for Hilldawg to put a hurting on him tonight if she has a good performance

Unfortunately a good chunk of the audience will going full-on Homer Simpson, shouting "BORING" anytime she goes into policy details. So she has to make him look frivolous AND give those people a few highlight moments by channeling some Obama/Biden energy.

crowd is not allowed to make noise during the 90 minute no commercial break or bathroom break debate.

Soren wrote:The Gary Johnson meme stash is maybe even worse than the Bernie meme stash

jerseyhoya wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:NSFW!