pacino wrote:We had a primary and she got the most votes. I don't know how else to pick a nominee. You cant require others to run if they don't think it is their time.

MoBettle wrote:

Youseff wrote:

MoBettle wrote:

Youseff wrote:she doesn't deserve all of the blame, but I think we should acknowledge she's not that good at running for President.

The democrats spent the last 8 years filling every high profile position with old people with no national ambitions besides Hillary. Not a shock that they couldn't come up with a decent challenger.

I've said this before, but there's a reason why it's so rare for parties to win more than 2-3 times in a row. The party is kind of stale and out of touch with much of the country (no not just because everyone else is racist) and probably needs a loss to recalibrate itself the way it did during Bush. Unfortunately Trump makes this not really an option.

I'm not really familiar with the Governor landscape across the country so I can't say if I agree with the first paragraph, but I'd disagree pretty strongly with the second half. maybe they need to move further to the left to attract a younger audience but the Dems still represent pretty mainstream views when it comes to social issues & gov't programs. if she loses it literally is largely because a big part of the country is racist. the solution should not be to recalibrate to that.

Not really sure how you can say the Democrats are in touch with the country when they've just nominated in a relative landslide the 2nd most unpopular presidential candidate in history.

pacino wrote:We had a primary and she got the most votes. I don't know how else to pick a nominee. You cant require others to run if they don't think it is their time.

Houshphandzadeh wrote:well, I hope you shrug just as emphatically if she loses

JUburton wrote:Or maybe she had the best political resume, favorability be damned? Gotta say I hate the whole 'it was just her turn' thing because it makes it seem like she's just been dicking around waiting to be crowned candidate since 2008.

Youseff wrote:

pacino wrote:We had a primary and she got the most votes. I don't know how else to pick a nominee. You cant require others to run if they don't think it is their time.

yeah, she won by a lot among registered dems. maybe if Hillary hadn't colluded with TNT to keep Bernie's appearance at a Warriors game off national TV we'd have a different nominee, but she won, and millions more voted for her in the process.

azrider wrote:Some of those candidates were just testing the water a bit, but they all knew they would have to overcome Clinton having the DNC in her back pocket. That was a huge obstacle for anyone to overcome. Maybe Biden would've had a chance, kind of a shame regarding that situation, would've voted for him.

Youseff wrote:

azrider wrote:Some of those candidates were just testing the water a bit, but they all knew they would have to overcome Clinton having the DNC in her back pocket. That was a huge obstacle for anyone to overcome. Maybe Biden would've had a chance, kind of a shame regarding that situation, would've voted for him.

What impact did the DNC ultimately have on Hillary winning the nomination?

JUburton wrote:Clinton +9 in Monmouth NH, Ayotte +2.

That's 273 if you think CO, VA, WI, MI are quite safe.