Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:29:46

Turkish propaganda stirring anti-American sentiment
Yeni Şafak’s story claimed that General Campbell is not only the organizer of the coup attempt but that he also managed “$2 billion [in] money transactions” from a Nigerian bank to coup plotters with the help of Central Intelligence Agency.

When the Washington Post asked Campbell about the claim, the retired general called it “absolutely ridiculous.” It was later revealed that Campbell was drinking beer in New York City with Fox News host Geraldo Rivera on the day of the failed coup. Despite all of these facts, Yeni Şafak did not retract its story.

Later, another conservative paper claimed that the U.S. Ambassador in Turkey, John Bass, was in Istanbul to meet with coup plotters a day before the attempt. An image, purportedly showing Bass and an unnamed man in uniform, spread like a wildfire on Twitter.
The official Twitter account of the U.S. Embassy in Ankara quickly made a statement that the ambassador was at an official meeting with Turkey’s Ombudsman in Ankara that day—which can be verified at Ombudman’s official website—reminding journalists how they could have easily verified the claim before publishing it.


This story is based on a hotel guest list of Wilson Center’s academic meeting in Istanbul. But apparently Akşam’s reporter mixed one of the guests, Christian Science Monitor’s Middle East correspondent, Scott Peterson, with another Scott Peterson who is on a death row in California for murdering his wife. Even after confirming via the inmate locator that convict Scott Peterson was still in prison in California, the paper amended the story the following day to claim that Peterson might have been brought to Turkey by the CIA as an “assassin.” None of the countering facts and condemnations from academics have so far pushed the paper to issue an apology.


Erdogan's feelings are hurt that the EU and US didn't condemn the coup enough
The head of the terrorist organization (accused of fomenting the July 15 coup) has been living in the United States since 1999. I asked President Obama to extradite Gülen. He asked me for documents and evidence. I pointed out to him that when the United States asked for terrorists to be extradited, we never asked for anything and just did it. By virtue of our strategic partnership, the United States must extradite this person since Turkey has already extradited about ten terrorists to the United States. We sent 85 crates of documents to the United States. I now hope that Gülen will be extradited to Turkey as soon as possible. This would allow the anti-American feeling in Turkey to be dispelled.

On August 24, Mr. Kerry [the head of American diplomacy] will come to Turkey for an official visit. It is late, too late. This makes us sad. What more do Americans need? Their strategic ally is facing a coup and it takes them 45 days before sending anyone over? This is shocking. When the World Trade Center was attacked (on 9/11/2001), I immediately reacted: I condemned the attacks which I qualified as a terrorist crime. I would have wished for American officials to come up with stronger words and to come to Turkey earlier. Unfortunately, it didn’t happen this way.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby JFLNYC » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:31:34

jerseyhoya wrote:
pacino wrote:oh, you think the debates will actually happen

They have to, right? How else does he expect to get back in the race?


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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby Soren » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:40:33

I've lost two friends this morning since posting on FB that trump voters can fuck off
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:42:23

it's nice that you thought we were friends
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby SK790 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:44:10

Soren wrote:I've lost two friends this morning since posting on FB that trump voters can fuck off

i want to stress this to not just you but everyone. you're better off without these people in your life.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:48:16

interesting discussion on whether or not the house can be turned

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... /#comments
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:50:19

Turkey's going to end up aligning with Russia and that will be a big blow given Turkey's location and history.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:00:06

they're restarting the oil pipeline from Russia to Turkey
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:01:50

more on the dems gaining seats

https://www.yahoo.com/news/down-ticket- ... 00722.html

The last time the nonpartisan analysts at the Cook Political Report published their trademark “race ratings” was July 22 — the day after the GOP concluded its convention in Cleveland and right before Trump hit his high-water mark in the polls. But even then, Cook painted a scary picture for the GOP: one Democratic seat was deemed likely to go Republican, and three more were tossups. The number of Republican tossups, however, was much larger: 17. Another three GOP seats, meanwhile, were leaning Democratic and two more were likely to flip. All told, 45 Republican seats were considered competitive — and 22 had at least a 50/50 chance of going Democrat
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:02:34

I don't think Turkey is nearly as strategically important as it used to be. If they want to be close to Russia, by all means. Get out of NATO.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:05:45

Also, Dems are likely to pick up MN02 after the results of their R primary. Been a safe R seat for a long time.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby Werthless » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:13:25

Soren wrote:I've lost two friends this morning since posting on FB that trump voters can fuck off

That's not very nice. ;)

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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby Soren » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:28:29

Werthless wrote:
Soren wrote:I've lost two friends this morning since posting on FB that trump voters can fuck off

That's not very nice. ;)


I said it a bit more diplomatically:

If Trump offhandedly joking about someone murdering Hillary isn't enough to convince you not to vote for him then there's no point in talking about it with you. Please unfriend me and lose my phone number.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:06:27

Tom Friedman bringing the heat.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin got assassinated.

His right-wing opponents just kept delegitimizing him as a “traitor” and “a Nazi” for wanting to make peace with the Palestinians and give back part of the Land of Israel. Of course, all is fair in politics, right? And they had God on their side, right? They weren’t actually telling anyone to assassinate Rabin. That would be horrible.

But there are always people down the line who don’t hear the caveats. They just hear the big message: The man is illegitimate, the man is a threat to the nation, the man is the equivalent of a Nazi war criminal. Well, you know what we do with people like that, don’t you? We kill them.

And that’s what the Jewish extremist Yigal Amir did to Rabin. Why not? He thought he had permission from a whole segment of Israel’s political class.

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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:52:55

well not hard proof of anything but confirms what we suspected all along

A former aide to Gov. Chris Christie texted to a colleague during a news conference about the George Washington Bridge lane-closing scandal that Christie "flat out lied" about the involvement of his senior staff and campaign manager, according to a new court filing.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-aide- ... 04805.html
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Aug 10, 2016 13:07:09

@NRA 21h21 hours ago
.@RealDonaldTrump is right. If @HillaryClinton gets to pick her anti-#2A #SCOTUS judges, there’s nothing we can do. #NeverHillary

@NRA 21h21 hours ago
But there IS something we will do on #ElectionDay: Show up and vote for the #2A! #DefendtheSecond #NeverHillary
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 10, 2016 13:11:13

pacino wrote:
@NRA 21h21 hours ago
.@RealDonaldTrump is right. If @HillaryClinton gets to pick her anti-#2A #SCOTUS judges, there’s nothing we can do. #NeverHillary

@NRA 21h21 hours ago
But there IS something we will do on #ElectionDay: Show up and vote for the #2A! #DefendtheSecond #NeverHillary


@NRA 21h21 hours ago
And if @HillaryClinton does win on #ElectionDay: Show up to inauguration and go 2nd right amendment on her ass! #DefendtheSecond #DieHillaryDie
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 10, 2016 13:11:35

(made up that last one)
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Aug 10, 2016 13:14:33

bernie sanders decided to buy a vacation home with the money his wife made off the sale of her parents' home. this is, in some circles, 100% EVIDENCE he is now a bought and sold 1 percenter.
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Re: Trump Dreck II: The Wrath of the Khans (politics)

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Aug 10, 2016 13:17:42

pacino wrote:bernie sanders decided to buy a vacation home with the money his wife made off the sale of her parents' home. this is, in some circles, 100% EVIDENCE he is now a bought and sold 1 percenter.
a 74 year old lifelong public servant bought a vacation home? he DISGUSTS me

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