Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jul 21, 2016 09:31:57

On edge of losing greatest country in the world, Ted's soul cries!

The only path to saving this country is not blindly following name, yelling down dissenters. Can anyone imagine nominee standing in front of voters and answering these questions (mix response by crowd).
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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jul 21, 2016 09:34:21

This delegation interview (the parts I saw) was a good follow up to his speech last night. He didn't seem to capitulate at all, or try to re-frame his speech - yet.

Trump will never capitulate to Ted's tantrum, but it's probably what was needed to completely unify the GOP.
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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jul 21, 2016 09:37:45

Some GOP (?) pundit on CNN said everyone was appalled last night at Cruz, that we all love seeing two teams shake hands at the end - yea, but Trump went up to the hand shake mid masturbation, finished, and then spit in Heidi's face before holding his hand out for Cruz.
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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby Squire » Thu Jul 21, 2016 09:43:57

Gimpy wrote:Come to the RNC to hear such great speakers as Chachi Arcola, twelve people named Trump, and some guys who won't even endorse the candidate. He's going to hire the best people when he's in charge though!

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 09:50:45

drsmooth wrote:
td11 wrote:@EWErickson
SOURCE: The Trump camp knew this morning Cruz would not endorse and told Cruz's camp they'd orchestrate booing if he refused.


this is great, not only their (Manafort's) letting the thing happen, but their understanding that they'd have to orchestrate booing because 3/4 of the dimwits there wouldn't know Cruz had just dry-fisted them all

It's even better than that. If it's true, that the booing was incited by Trump plants, then those idiots made this into a memorable event rather than a simple "Cruz didn't endorse Trump" story. Political reporters who were there are calling it the most memorable live speech event of their careers. His wife got escorted out of the arena for her protection, for crying out loud.

It blows my mind that they don't realize that this makes the entire GOP look bad/fractured/disorganized/clueless, not just Cruz.

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 09:56:26

I mean, here's today's headline in my local paper. Nothing about Trump, at least nothing good (see the subheadline of Heidi getting taunted by Trump supporters).

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This event is supposed to be a week-long sales pitch. The "ULTIMATE BUSINESSMAN" should be able to crush this. Or so you'd think.

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:04:54

hoping there will be an upward trend in polls again starting next week. the past 10 days have not been good for the democrats. jh, what are your feelings? will the email stuff begin to fade and clinton can come back off the ledge again by the end of the month?

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:09:09

I've never heard of whips in the crowd to incite a specific response. The douche chills are real.
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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:09:39

CalvinBall wrote:hoping there will be an upward trend in polls again starting next week. the past 10 days have not been good for the democrats. jh, what are your feelings? will the email stuff begin to fade and clinton can come back off the ledge again by the end of the month?


Trump will get a convention bump and may be "even" with Hillary over the weekend; however, Hillary still needs to pick a VP and have the DNC. Things should normalize in August. Also, state polling will become more accurate and will paint a better picture for November.
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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby MoBettle » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:20:27

TenuredVulture wrote:In my view, the most important thing about both the Cruz thing and the plagiarism thing is the way they have dominated convention coverage. Just about nothing regarding what the speakers actually might be saying (or not saying). I just don't see any post convention bounce for Trump here. I suppose if delivered a strong speech tonight Trump could reverse that, and I guess more people will be actually watching tonight than other convention nights. I have a hard time seeing Trump delivering the kind of speech that gets him that bounce, but I also suspect he'll avoid totally shitting the bed. The latter however is more likely than the former.


Yeah I think as long as they just have a night like Tuesday and not Wednesday or Monday the bounce will be fine. Advantage of how quickly news cycles turn etc.
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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby drsmooth » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:21:31

Heavenly Father,

I don't ask You for much, but if You could see Your way clear tonight, about 15 seconds into the speech to be given by the Republican nominee for President of the United States, to just kinda-sorta randomize the text that's displayed in the teleprompter's he's using, I would be so much more likely to come to church once in awhile.

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:30:54

CalvinBall wrote:hoping there will be an upward trend in polls again starting next week. the past 10 days have not been good for the democrats. jh, what are your feelings? will the email stuff begin to fade and clinton can come back off the ledge again by the end of the month?

Trump is in a lot of trouble. Needed this week to recast his campaign, and the 1st two days were overshadowed with the plagiarism thing, now today is going to be Cruz's disunity message in the limelight. Even with Hillary's problems these past few weeks he hasn't been able to actually increase his vote share. Unless tonight is a massive success there won't be the bump he needs, and it sounds like HRC is announcing her VP pick tomorrow in Florida to step on whatever news cycle Trump gets out of tonight. And you know the DNC is going to be well choreographed with actual good speeches by actually popular politicians.

Really started thinking the past few weeks this might be a very close election that could go either way, but the last three days have done a lot to lessen the chances of that.

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:34:57

interesting. thanks for the thoughtful answer.

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby Bucky » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:47:14

drsmooth wrote:Dominus vobiscum, amen


Ooh! You speak French!

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:56:38

clinton campaign pulling out all the stops

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/trumpyourself/

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:58:00

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Other than a small group of people who have suffered massive and embarrassing losses, the party is VERY united. Great love in the arena!


I would like Donald to tweet "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:02:31

i swear i saw trump retweeting all this crazy stuff last night. i dont see it on his feed this morning.

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:29:58

The Nightman Cometh wrote:I've never heard of whips in the crowd to incite a specific response. The douche chills are real.

Never? It was definitely an old-school underhanded tactic and is now going professional. Trump himself has used those tactics in this campaign cycle.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/business/crowds-for-hire/

His start-up Crowds on Demand, launched in 2012, has established itself as a popular resource for any party in need of guests. "The company started as a way for up-and-coming celebrities to get more attention," explains Swart, a UCLA political science graduate. "If you are surrounded with bodyguards and paparazzi you are taken more seriously."

"Then we started fielding political requests - to provide crowds for world leaders and U..S political candidates at federal, state, and local level, or to conduct rallies and protests in support or opposition to an issue."

The company repertoire has now expanded to cover product launches, PR stunts, and social justice movements. One popular side-line is using crowds to apply pressure to one side - or even both - of a corporate litigation dispute.

Swart claims the business has "more than doubled" in size each year, and can now call on tens of thousands of performers to cover several events each day, in dozens of cities across the U.S.


Also: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/crowd-hiring-politics-campaign-2016/399002/
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby The B1G Piece » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:32:24

Is this Trump when asked what he is actually going to do as President?

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Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Unread postby Bucky » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:33:52

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:I've never heard of whips in the crowd to incite a specific response. The douche chills are real.

Never? It was definitely an old-school underhanded tactic and is now going professional. Trump himself has used those tactics in this campaign cycle.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/business/crowds-for-hire/

His start-up Crowds on Demand, launched in 2012, has established itself as a popular resource for any party in need of guests. "The company started as a way for up-and-coming celebrities to get more attention," explains Swart, a UCLA political science graduate. "If you are surrounded with bodyguards and paparazzi you are taken more seriously."

"Then we started fielding political requests - to provide crowds for world leaders and U..S political candidates at federal, state, and local level, or to conduct rallies and protests in support or opposition to an issue."

The company repertoire has now expanded to cover product launches, PR stunts, and social justice movements. One popular side-line is using crowds to apply pressure to one side - or even both - of a corporate litigation dispute.

Swart claims the business has "more than doubled" in size each year, and can now call on tens of thousands of performers to cover several events each day, in dozens of cities across the U.S.


Also: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/crowd-hiring-politics-campaign-2016/399002/
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161


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