Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 19, 2016 15:00:21

I'm more scared of the fact that the other speeches were likely ghost-written by or cribbed from Stormfront, Alex Jones, and Alt-right goons.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

pacino
Moderator / BSG MVP
Moderator / BSG MVP
 
Posts: 75831
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 18:37:20
Location: Furkin Good

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby smitty » Tue Jul 19, 2016 15:13:48

This speech plagiarism crap is still being discussed on CNN. Do some real Journalism you TV people. There is plenty of real stuff to analyze and talk about. Get to work!
Teams lie, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for bad. They do it to get an advantage while they look at the trade market or just because they can

--Will Carroll

smitty
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 45450
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 03:00:27
Location: Federal Way, WA --Spursville

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Tue Jul 19, 2016 15:20:35

Picturing M & B Obama havin a laff
Yes, but in a double utley you can put your utley on top they other guy's utley, and you're the winner. (Swish)

drsmooth
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 47349
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 19:24:48
Location: Low station

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby Youseff » Tue Jul 19, 2016 15:26:19

Woody wrote:Trump must be LOVING this. He craves the attention, positive or otherwise. It's all the same to him.


I think this is true to an extent, but I think it's also very clear he's a thin skinned child, and this kind of thing will infuriate him forcing him to act irrationally, and hopefully alienate some of the people potentially voting for him.
This is what a real tenderoni likes to do for you

Youseff
Space Cadet
Space Cadet
 
Posts: 22976
Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2007 03:47:53
Location: Ice Mountain

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Jul 19, 2016 15:30:35

Youseff wrote:
Woody wrote:Trump must be LOVING this. He craves the attention, positive or otherwise. It's all the same to him.


I think this is true to an extent, but I think it's also very clear he's a thin skinned child, and this kind of thing will infuriate him forcing him to act irrationally, and hopefully alienate some of the people potentially voting for him.


nah, he's just being picked on and acting like any other person would! He's the archetype for half the voting base in america

jamiethekiller
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 26938
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2006 03:31:02

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Jul 19, 2016 15:31:36

i mean. this isn't the first slip up on the campaign. His numbers are on the rise at the moment(convention bump?). Even if its a convention bump it doesn't seem possible considering how much and how often he or his team screws up.

jamiethekiller
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 26938
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2006 03:31:02

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Jul 19, 2016 15:33:30

drsmooth wrote:Picturing M & B Obama havin a laff


Oh to be a fly on the wall to see Michelle's reaction when she realizes that her words are coming out of Melania's mouth.

Doll Is Mine
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 27502
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 20:40:30

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby Youseff » Tue Jul 19, 2016 15:45:21

jamiethekiller wrote:i mean. this isn't the first slip up on the campaign. His numbers are on the rise at the moment(convention bump?). Even if its a convention bump it doesn't seem possible considering how much and how often he or his team screws up.


it's generally the more tabloidy stuff that brings down a campaign. soundbites, easily described, etc.
This is what a real tenderoni likes to do for you

Youseff
Space Cadet
Space Cadet
 
Posts: 22976
Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2007 03:47:53
Location: Ice Mountain

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Jul 19, 2016 16:04:06

Actor, former underwear model and reality show star Antonio Sabato Jr. — who stumped for Donald Trump on the floor of the Republican National Convention Monday — told ABC News that he "absolutely" believes President Barack Obama is a Muslim.

"We had a Muslim president for 7 1/2 years," Sabato said. "I don't believe he is [a Christian]."

Trump, who spearheaded the birther movement, repeatedly questioned whether the president is an American and if he is a Muslim.

Obama has repeatedly said that he is a Christian.

Sabato said that for the last 7 1/2 years, he has "seen this country take a bad turn" under Obama's leadership. "This guy made it really hard for me to support him," he said about Obama, saying that the president entered office with an agenda to move the country to the left.
He said that police officers and the military don't like Obama and implied that he was not American.

"I believe that he's on the other side ... the Middle East," Sabato told ABC News. "He's with the bad guys."

He said that he was not concerned about vocally supporting Trump in liberal-leaning Hollywood and didn't care if that caused people to judge him.

"So be it," he said.

Doll Is Mine
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 27502
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 20:40:30

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby Youseff » Tue Jul 19, 2016 16:12:47

Doll Is Mine wrote:
Actor, former underwear model and reality show star Antonio Sabato Jr. — who stumped for Donald Trump on the floor of the Republican National Convention Monday — told ABC News that he "absolutely" believes President Barack Obama is a Muslim.

"We had a Muslim president for 7 1/2 years," Sabato said. "I don't believe he is [a Christian]."

Trump, who spearheaded the birther movement, repeatedly questioned whether the president is an American and if he is a Muslim.

Obama has repeatedly said that he is a Christian.

Sabato said that for the last 7 1/2 years, he has "seen this country take a bad turn" under Obama's leadership. "This guy made it really hard for me to support him," he said about Obama, saying that the president entered office with an agenda to move the country to the left.
He said that police officers and the military don't like Obama and implied that he was not American.

"I believe that he's on the other side ... the Middle East," Sabato told ABC News. "He's with the bad guys."

He said that he was not concerned about vocally supporting Trump in liberal-leaning Hollywood and didn't care if that caused people to judge him.

"So be it," he said.


my least favorite part of this election has been old-guard Republicans acting saddened and aghast like they didn't foster, support and rely on that kind of attitude to fuel their party for decades now.
This is what a real tenderoni likes to do for you

Youseff
Space Cadet
Space Cadet
 
Posts: 22976
Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2007 03:47:53
Location: Ice Mountain

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby td11 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:25:59

jamiethekiller wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:I generally don't care to defend the media, but I think the Trump campaign's weird handling of this is as much of the story at this point.


this is what i'm poorly alluding to. pick on the issue that its the campaign let this happen instead of a deluge of memes that has quotes attributed to Melania.


lol. as if melania is a separate entity from "the campaign"

in the end it doesn't matter cause with Trump there is no such thing as bad publicity.


sad!
td11
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 35802
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 03:04:40

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby td11 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:26:56

Youseff wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
Actor, former underwear model and reality show star Antonio Sabato Jr. — who stumped for Donald Trump on the floor of the Republican National Convention Monday — told ABC News that he "absolutely" believes President Barack Obama is a Muslim.

"We had a Muslim president for 7 1/2 years," Sabato said. "I don't believe he is [a Christian]."

Trump, who spearheaded the birther movement, repeatedly questioned whether the president is an American and if he is a Muslim.

Obama has repeatedly said that he is a Christian.

Sabato said that for the last 7 1/2 years, he has "seen this country take a bad turn" under Obama's leadership. "This guy made it really hard for me to support him," he said about Obama, saying that the president entered office with an agenda to move the country to the left.
He said that police officers and the military don't like Obama and implied that he was not American.

"I believe that he's on the other side ... the Middle East," Sabato told ABC News. "He's with the bad guys."

He said that he was not concerned about vocally supporting Trump in liberal-leaning Hollywood and didn't care if that caused people to judge him.

"So be it," he said.


my least favorite part of this election has been old-guard Republicans acting saddened and aghast like they didn't foster, support and rely on that kind of attitude to fuel their party for decades now.


+1
td11
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 35802
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 03:04:40

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby JUburton » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:27:06

I'd wait until after the convention when hillary is -175 and bet my house before she slaughters him in the first debate and jumps to -300.

No one search for the post where I said Rubio was the good bet at 3/1 thank you.

JUburton
Space Cadet
Space Cadet
 
Posts: 17132
Joined: Wed May 05, 2010 20:49:25
Location: Philly

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby td11 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:28:17

like all the vile shit the trump campaign has said and done, and we got Jamie over here getting all bunched up because Melania had some mean memes made about her. "you guys are sheeple.... the real issue is his bad campaign"
td11
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 35802
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 03:04:40

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby Woody » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:29:55

I don't think there is such a thing as slaughtering Trump in a debate, especially by Hillary Clinton

I mean yeah rational humans that are probably already going to not vote for Trump might see it that way. But for everyone else, he'll just do his thing where he yells and interrupts and name calls and shrugs and rolls his eyes and people will eat it up. In order to keep up and not get verbally steamrolled, Hillary will have to raise her voice, which is not a good choice
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

Woody
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 52472
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 17:56:45
Location: captain of the varsity slut team

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby Squire » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:33:40

While the America media was focused on two lines from Trump's wife speech, Erdogan fired several thousand teachers and school deans today.

Squire
Space Cadet
Space Cadet
 
Posts: 11747
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 16:50:35

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby td11 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:34:21

Woody wrote:I don't think there is such a thing as slaughtering Trump in a debate, especially by Hillary Clinton

I mean yeah rational humans that are probably already going to not vote for Trump might see it that way. But for everyone else, he'll just do his thing where he yells and interrupts and name calls and shrugs and rolls his eyes and people will eat it up. In order to keep up, Hillary will have to raise her voice, which is not a good choice


while i agree with you, something about this doesn't sit right with me. i mean i understand that this is how he's gained all this momentum-- by being a fast talking, bombastic, ignoramus who just plays to the audience's basest fears-- but he surely can't keep gaining momentum by keeping up that shtick in the debates (i don't think he has any other shticks, tho). in the 2012 debates, romney tried to be the aggressive alpha male and it just ended with him faceplanting-- and romney had far more subsantive answers on policies! without his drunk, raucous crowds behind him i think he'll have a much tougher time in the debates (at least i hope)
td11
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 35802
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 03:04:40

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby SK790 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:39:26

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
jamiethekiller wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:I generally don't care to defend the media, but I think the Trump campaign's weird handling of this is as much of the story at this point.


this is what i'm poorly alluding to. pick on the issue that its the campaign let this happen instead of a deluge of memes that has quotes attributed to Melania.


in the end it doesn't matter cause with Trump there is no such thing as bad publicity.

Come on. The CNN pundits were bending over backwards to give poor Melania a pat on the head last night. "It's not her fault." "She did a great job." "I feel sorry for her."

It was insanely condescending, in all reality. No way in hell does a female attorney such as Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton get a pass like that. Especially one that claimed in a national tv interview that she wrote it herself with "as little help as possible." But because Melania is widely regarded as being nothing more than eye candy? "It's not her fault." Sure.

So outside of the Twitter memes (which are a fact of life anymore), what have you seen that picked on Melania? Everything I've seen has been focused on the campaign reaction and the identity of the speechwriter.

I'm more offended that she implied that her or her day-glo lump of clay of a husband ever did a hard days work in their lives. Being born into wealth or being a model sounds just like such a hard grind...
I like teh waether

SK790
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 33040
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 23:12:01
Location: time is money; money is power; power is pizza; pizza is knowledge

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby Woody » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:39:50

Think about how stupid the average person is, in your daily experience. Now realize that approximately half the population is dumber than them

Politics has become team bloodsport.

I'm not saying Trump is our next President, I just think it's more probable than people are willing to admit
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

Woody
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 52472
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 17:56:45
Location: captain of the varsity slut team

Re: Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

Postby SK790 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 17:43:08

Doll Is Mine wrote:MSNBC did the same thing. "A disservice to Melania" they called it. Joy Reid was the only one to place blame on her.

Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous. The left's coddling of Melina is pretty unusual. I see people talk about her as if she had no choice but to marry one of the biggest scumbags of our time. If she says something stupid, you get "it's not fair to criticize her, she's probably actually bright, she knows so many languages!!!".

No. She says stupid things and is married to an opportunistic facist. She's evil by association.
I like teh waether

SK790
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 33040
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 23:12:01
Location: time is money; money is power; power is pizza; pizza is knowledge

PreviousNext