Bill McNeal wrote:I don't have a theremin or a tuning fork. Guess I'll just get an x-ray

Doll Is Mine wrote:So I'm a little depressed today.

Something happened at work that really upset me in a way that nothing has in a long time. I work for a non-profit and part of my job is to speak to people about donating money for special events, typically our biggest which are our Walk and Bike events.

Today I spoke with several donors and all of them were nothing but generous, which is pretty much the norm. Now I don't call new people and ask for money. These are people who have already donated for a event or sponsored a Walk or Bike participant so I call to basically thank them for their donation and ask them if they'd be willing to help convince others to donate or register for the event with a fee.

Anyway, after I was done with my calls, my supervisor approached me and informed me that one of those callers was being removed from our member list and will not be allowed to donate to or participate in future events. When I asked why, my supervisor told me in confidence that this member called our Chapter President and asked that I not be the one calling him for donations because of my gayness. Apparently I sounded gay on the phone and he didn't feel comfortable talking to me.

I was absolutely stunned and honestly, I feel numb.

WheelsFellOff wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

pacino wrote:none of these buildings would've been built in Manhattan if it had today's zoning rules
bit of a misnomer because the zoning rules are in place due to this density, but still interesting

So in a city with an acute shortage of affordable housing, you can't build a building if it's "too tall" or has "too many apartments". Makes sense. If you're Trump.

What are you talking about? How is that a Trump thing? Building height restrictions and number of apartments (more likely apartments that don't meet minimum square footage requirements under the IBC) came in as quality of life changes to keep some amount of natural light and to combat slumlord practices.

CalvinBall wrote:Checking in from the dudes favorite place

TenuredVulture wrote:

WheelsFellOff wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

pacino wrote:none of these buildings would've been built in Manhattan if it had today's zoning rules
bit of a misnomer because the zoning rules are in place due to this density, but still interesting

So in a city with an acute shortage of affordable housing, you can't build a building if it's "too tall" or has "too many apartments". Makes sense. If you're Trump.

What are you talking about? How is that a Trump thing? Building height restrictions and number of apartments (more likely apartments that don't meet minimum square footage requirements under the IBC) came in as quality of life changes to keep some amount of natural light and to combat slumlord practices.

By limiting the number of housing units you raise the price of existing units such as the ones trump has in his already built tower.

WheelsFellOff wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

WheelsFellOff wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

pacino wrote:none of these buildings would've been built in Manhattan if it had today's zoning rules
bit of a misnomer because the zoning rules are in place due to this density, but still interesting

So in a city with an acute shortage of affordable housing, you can't build a building if it's "too tall" or has "too many apartments". Makes sense. If you're Trump.

What are you talking about? How is that a Trump thing? Building height restrictions and number of apartments (more likely apartments that don't meet minimum square footage requirements under the IBC) came in as quality of life changes to keep some amount of natural light and to combat slumlord practices.

By limiting the number of housing units you raise the price of existing units such as the ones trump has in his already built tower.

I'm all for cynicism, but within reason. There's nothing stopping developers from reducing the number of apartments. It's the nature of the beast that everyone is trying to stuff 10 pounds of shit in a five pound bag. Building codes are reactionary, and in New York's case they're reacting to the skyscrapers. The overall height and footprint requirements that many of these apartment buildings are in violation of date back to the very first zoning law in 1916 in response to a building being built a year earlier for maximum floor space resulting in no setbacks and a monolithic design that put whole blocks in shadow. And the major revamp in the 60's was a reaction to the jagged, tiered buildings of the 30's 40's and 50's which met those requirements. That change is leading to taller, skinnier buildings which some complain don't mesh with the style of the classic art deco buildings. And this is causing a push (which the article covers at the end) for the code to allow redevelopment to a lot's original dimensions allowing for more modernized building techniques, likely increasing space, while keeping the 'feel' of a New York apartment building.