#Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Werthless » Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:55:11

My Mom revealed that she voted for Trump. I had no response.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:59:37

yeah, my Mom voted Trump and her main reason is that she think he raised really good kids?

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Woody » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:15:56

hahaha
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Bucky » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:17:56

I love me some Dilbert, but Scott Adams is trying desperately to make sense out of something that makes none.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:18:21

Soren wrote:How can you check voting results by district? I'd like to find out how disappointed I am in Plumsteadville.


http://buckscountyvotes.org/

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:21:26

My entire family voted Clinton. Didn't see that coming. Maybe the books my mom mailed out of Clinton's life story should've told me that...
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:22:24

Trump took Berks county. This is like the most obvious thing ever
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Woody » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:22:59

Bucky wrote:I love me some Dilbert, but Scott Adams is trying desperately to make sense out of something that makes none.


i don't necessarily think so. his main point is that humans aren't rational actors and Trump knows how to persuade/manipulate/signal to/whatever you want to call it/ them

you can be dismissive of Trump because he's a cretin, but it's not entirely a depressing accident that he's crushing everyone
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby JUburton » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:32:32

Woody wrote:
Bucky wrote:I love me some Dilbert, but Scott Adams is trying desperately to make sense out of something that makes none.


i don't necessarily think so. his main point is that humans aren't rational actors and Trump knows how to persuade/manipulate/signal to/whatever you want to call it/ them

you can be dismissive of Trump because he's a cretin, but it's not entirely a depressing accident that he's crushing everyone
I buy that as reasoning as to why he's getting up to 60% of the republican vote but I don't know how much that extends to over 50% in a general. It's just so hard to see a path for him if he can't take OH/PA.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Woody » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:37:29

oh yeah i don't necessarily think he will win a general, but if he does it won't totally shock me.

because i'm now dead inside
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Bucky » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:37:47

My point is that Scott thinks there's some sort of strategy or plan behind what he's doing. I believe it's his innate cretinism.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Woody » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:49:08

Bucky wrote:My point is that Scott thinks there's some sort of strategy or plan behind what he's doing. I believe it's his innate cretinism.


I think (hope?) it's somewhere in between. Somewhere in there is still the guy (now clownish caricature) that wrote Art of the Deal

"I play to people's fantasies," he writes. "People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular."


Just terrific. The best
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:09:15

Woody wrote:
Bucky wrote:My point is that Scott thinks there's some sort of strategy or plan behind what he's doing. I believe it's his innate cretinism.


I think (hope?) it's somewhere in between. Somewhere in there is still the guy (now clownish caricature) that wrote Art of the Deal

"I play to people's fantasies," he writes. "People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular."


Just terrific. The best


I'm on board with that. He's a guy who's built his whole career on selling the image of success-not only that he's a success, but everyone who takes part in what he's created has a little bit of that success rub off on them as well. People like being told that they deserve good stuff, and that they should revel in it, not apologize. The idea that this concept would work in politics is not very far-fetched, nor is the idea that Trump would consciously employ it. Actually the idea that he just stumbled into it is what strains belief.

That enough people would buy into to sustain not just a business model but a Presidential campaign is what's distressing.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:20:01

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:25:50

TenuredVulture wrote:http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2016-president/


Hillary Clinton
Ex-Secretary of State

Key Primary Disadvantages

•Keeping Bill in check — and on the porch
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby WheelsFellOff » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:32:28

Bucky wrote:My point is that Scott thinks there's some sort of strategy or plan behind what he's doing. I believe it's his innate cretinism.

I think it's more like someone dissecting the amazing feats of physics and biological engineering for a peregrine falcon identifying their prey from a mile up and accurately divebombing them at over 200mph. The bird doesn't have to know the math, just like Trump's narcissistic lizard brain doesn't need a high level degree in behavioral psychology.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Woody » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:34:47

:lol:
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:37:40

He went to the best schools.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:38:33

swishnicholson wrote:
Woody wrote:
Bucky wrote:My point is that Scott thinks there's some sort of strategy or plan behind what he's doing. I believe it's his innate cretinism.


I think (hope?) it's somewhere in between. Somewhere in there is still the guy (now clownish caricature) that wrote Art of the Deal

"I play to people's fantasies," he writes. "People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular."


Just terrific. The best

I'm on board with that. He's a guy who's built his whole career on selling the image of success-not only that he's a success, but everyone who takes part in what he's created has a little bit of that success rub off on them as well. People like being told that they deserve good stuff, and that they should revel in it, not apologize. The idea that this concept would work in politics is not very far-fetched, nor is the idea that Trump would consciously employ it. Actually the idea that he just stumbled into it is what strains belief.

That enough people would buy into to sustain not just a business model but a Presidential campaign is what's distressing.

I think Trump is a savant when it comes to a lot of this, and has an uncanny sense of what buttons to push to get attention and is also very good at telling people what they want to hear.

On the flip side, I don't think a tremendous amount of planning goes into it - throwing shit out on the plane at his sons or an adviser or two. And he errs with regularity. And making this work among swing voters is going to be harder than among GOP primary voters, among whom he hasn't exactly hit normal levels of support with for a possible nominee. Adams has obviously been more right about Trump so far than most including me, but I also think there's a point where you become so caught up in the narrative you're pushing where you make everything try to fit. The idea that saying Hillary would be at 5% if she wasn't a woman is laughable and insulting, and you look at Mary Pat Christie's face standing up there, I am highly skeptical this is some masterstroke. He's going to lose the female vote by a shocking margin if he's the nominee.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby drsmooth » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:42:36

drumpf delivering what's been billed as a "foreign policy" speech.

oh.my.god. omigod. Oh, my FUCKING god. Oh, godfuck.
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