i still don't see why it would matter in the slightest bit. anyone on the fence will fall in line and anyone who won't vote for hillary still won't.

It would be stupid to quit now since he can afford to keep going and he's not mathematically or practically eliminated. Yeah, it would take a big turn around but there are only 6 weeks or so left in the race. He can give a nice concession speech after California and sometime in the next month or two hold a rally to give his support to Clinton and tell his supporters to do the same.

I agree going til the convention isn't a big deal but I'm not in agreement with what his campaign manager implied the other day that they'll still fight at the convention for the super delegates even if they don't have more pledged delegates or votes

i'm really starting to worry that hillary will lose if the Rs backdoor someone even somewhat reasonable on the ticket. excitement for her will be super low from the far left. i think her vs cruz or trump would be more lopsided than 2008.

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:I agree going til the convention isn't a big deal but I'm not in agreement with what his campaign manager implied the other day that they'll still fight at the convention for the super delegates even if they don't have more pledged delegates or votes

"nah we're going to give up" doesn't inspire people to vote.

SK790 wrote:i'm really starting to worry that hillary will lose if the Rs backdoor someone even somewhat reasonable on the ticket. excitement for her will be super low from the far left. i think her vs cruz or trump would be more lopsided than 2008.

Still think the odds are pretty low for this. At this point I'd guess something like 60% Trump 1st ballot, 35% Cruz 2nd or 3rd ballot, 5% other.

What I dont get is why Sanders is barely even supporting the people that declared early for him and stuck their necks out there for him. John Fetterman could've used the boost from a sanders rally or money.

SK790 wrote:

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:I agree going til the convention isn't a big deal but I'm not in agreement with what his campaign manager implied the other day that they'll still fight at the convention for the super delegates even if they don't have more pledged delegates or votes

"nah we're going to give up" doesn't inspire people to vote.

true, but assailing the undemocratic parts of the system while saying you'll then use this OTHER undemocratic part in order to secure your nomination isn't a good look

SK790 wrote:

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:I agree going til the convention isn't a big deal but I'm not in agreement with what his campaign manager implied the other day that they'll still fight at the convention for the super delegates even if they don't have more pledged delegates or votes

"nah we're going to give up" doesn't inspire people to vote.

the usual political dodge was all that was necessary

"We plan on having the necessary delegates by June" or something like that

pacino wrote:

SK790 wrote:

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:I agree going til the convention isn't a big deal but I'm not in agreement with what his campaign manager implied the other day that they'll still fight at the convention for the super delegates even if they don't have more pledged delegates or votes

"nah we're going to give up" doesn't inspire people to vote.

true, but assailing the undemocratic parts of the system while saying you'll then use this OTHER undemocratic part in order to secure your nomination isn't a good look

Hey, I said he was grasping at straws.

my wife is bringing my stepdaughter to the Bernie townhall in Reading today. It's scheduled for 2pm but he's speaking in Scranton at noon...not sure it'll start on time. lol

Sanders has a chance -- maybe not a great chance, but a chance -- to become the leader of the free world, he's got a lot of people supporting him and a ton of money. Plus he's consistently and almost unanimously polled as the best Democratic in the general election. Bernie owes it to himself and his supporters to continue to fight the good fight. I'm as concerned as anyone that his criticisms of HRC could hurt her in November. But if she can't withstand Sanders' attacks, how's she going to withstand the withering attacks of the R's in the run up to the general? This isn't beanbag, it's politics at the most intense level. Instead of calling for Sanders to unite behind her, maybe it's time for HRC to prove she can unite the people behind her.

pacino wrote:my wife is bringing my stepdaughter to the Bernie townhall in Reading today. It's scheduled for 2pm but he's speaking in Scranton at noon...not sure it'll start on time. lol

probably means doors open at 2? and then they have a bunch of other people speak for a long time before the candidates even arrive typically.

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/sanders-campaign-undaunted-by-ny-loss-669591619932

"Is it really fair to say that we should use votes as a measure when we've won big caucuses? I think the fair measure... is if we use pledged delegates and states."

OK...but she's won the most pledged delegates and the most swing states.

Monkeyboy wrote:

swishnicholson wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Kasich needs to go away so badly. So so so badly.

You've certainly been consistent on this, but Kasich was convincingly the #notTrump winner in NY, and has a chance to be the #notTrump winner in each of the April 26 primaries. If this happens are you still hoping he'll go away, or would you rather his campaign gains strength nationally?

JH is so persistent in his Kasich hate that I almost wonder if the GOP thinks they have someone to replace Trump at the convention and Kasich being there as a "sane" alternative is going to mess it up.

Or not.

I love Monkeyboy's image of the Republican Party as an institution. To most of the world this cycle has exposed the party apparatus as a paper tiger, completely unable to influence the selection of a palatable nominee. It is lacking in any real power - no carrots or sticks, divided by personal and policy differences, and been steamrolled by two of the people it hates the most in politics.

But not everyone is fooled by this show of impotence we're putting on. The GOP - who comprises this portion of "the GOP" is entirely unclear - will still get its way and launch Paul Ryan into the White House, if only that dastardly Kasich will get out of the way! That's definitely what's driving my antipathy for him.

Trump coming out with a reasoned, moderate take on bathroom laws. Hard to overstate how much his tactfulness has improved over the past 2 weeks. If he had done this earlier it would have taken a lot of wind out of the "Stop Trump" sails.

today is one of the two days a year that i go lobby for this bill i have been supporting. today i did not get to go because of commitments this week and of course tony hale is there lobbying with my friends! i could have met him. shucks.

Are you lobbying about your shared love of Mother?

what bill cal? how you gonna vague facebook post us like that