jerseyhoya wrote:

threecount wrote:I'm sick of Trump when he keeps saying he is beating Hillary easily in the polls..

Please show me one recent poll that has him up even slightly nationwide..I think it's been awhile

NBC/Wall Street Journal has her up by 13 and ABC has her up winning by nine according to this...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Yup. Just one the many lies Trump gets away with.

Doll Is Mine wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:

pacino wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:Rubio should rethink his life because he'd be killing it if he were a Democrat.

He's had a lot of good one-liners tonight, not that this is a measure of anything.

He's too shallow to be a Democrat. There's no depth to him.

I've got to say your anti-Rubio thing has passed over to the "doth protest too much" category. What is the deal?

Rubio is incredibly conservative. DIM is not.

I mean, I am no conservative either. But there is a level of personal, relentless attack directed at Rubio that seems to go above and beyond mere dislike of the man's policy positions. Cruz is more abhorrent yet, and DIM isn't dedicating so much of his commentary toward him, to say nothing of Trump.

DIM explains himself above... but I dunno. Is Rubio a fake? Or is he a genuine conservative? If he were just looking for personal glory, as I suggest above, he'd have a lot better luck as a Democrat running for this office. If Rubio were running against Clinton right now for that nomination...it'd be a dog fight.

I don't like Rubio, but I can separate that from an objective analysis of his strengths and weaknesses as a candidate. Frankly I am not sure what is wrong for him, because he ticks off a lot of boxes and has an undeniable charm and wit, and a fine command of the issues.

He'd have no luck running as a Democrat and to even suggest it is strange. He's a conservative who won his seat in the Senate as someone who supported the Tea Party. So this idea that he's now some sort of moderate who can compete against Clinton in the Democratic primary is preposterous.

And while you see "undeniable charm and wit", others see a sweaty half-wit who's robotic and immature.

mozartpc27 wrote:[ What I was trying to indicate was that if you took Rubio's essential, non-political qualities (an easy charm and wit, natural good looks, but sharp intelligence, eloquence, nd ability to command complex policy questions),

jerseyhoya wrote:US Virgin Islands GOP voters affirmatively choose a slate of uncommitted delegates rather than support those pledged to Cruz/Trump/Rubio. There's going to be a decent chunk of unpledged delegates on the first ballot. If there's 150 unpledged plus the non-Trump/Cruz delegates (assuming little more gains from Rubio/Kasich), you're looking at like 15% going to not Cruz or Trump.
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But, in his peculiar quest to become a Virgin Islands delegate to the Republican convention, Yob and three others hit a roadblock, which has led to a bizarre and messy fight against the supervisor of the U.S. Virgin Island's Election Board.

On March 4, Caroline Fawkes, the supervisor of elections for the U.S. Virgin Islands ruled Yob, his wife Erica L. Yob, and Ethan Eilon and Lindsey Eilon ineligible to vote. All four of them were on the ballot to be delegates, but delegates must be registered Republican voters. Fawkes' ruling compromised their eligibility to serve as delegates.

According to court documents, Yob was initially ruled ineligible to vote, according to Fawkes, after he tried to register to vote before he had lived in the U.S. Virgin Islands for the required 90 days. According to an email that Fawkes sent to state chairman for the Virgin Islands Republican Party, John Canegata, Yob is alleged to have purposely falsified information to gain access to the polls.

"Mr. Yob appeared at the St. John Elections Office in order to register to vote in early January. He was informed by the Elections Assistant, he has to reside in the Virgin Islands for ninety days before he can register. He informed the Elections Assistant, he arrived on the island a week before, which made him ineligible. He then took the information gained and travelled to the St. Thomas Elections offices and provided a falsified date within the parameters to meet the requirement," Fawkes wrote in an email to the party chairman.

mozartpc27 wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:And while you see "undeniable charm and wit", others see a sweaty half-wit who's robotic and immature.

See, it's comments like these that underscore what I am saying. Calling the man "sweaty" is a third grade insult, does nothing to diminish Rubio in any way (the brother sweats a lot, I guess, some people do - and I am not even sure he really does sweat some weirdly absurd amount), but does say something about the person who delivers the insult.

What evidence do you have for his immaturity?

Calling him "robotic" is just picking up on a manufactured and pre-packaged talking point against him

ashton wrote:Image if this "Rubio" guy that jerseyhoya and mozartpc27 are describing held conservative positions and ran as a Republican.... He'd be wiping the floor with Trump and Cruz.

drsmooth wrote:

ashton wrote:Image if this "Rubio" guy that jerseyhoya and mozartpc27 are describing held conservative positions and ran as a Republican.... He'd be wiping the floor with Trump and Cruz.

no. Because in 2016, to sop up the festering R base, you have to racebait. All the time. The "marketing genius" in the engine compartment of their crazy train has done basically that. No one is reducing it to that, and saying so from a news desk, because that isn't good for ratings.

“From the video that’s being shown, you can’t see if it’s an officer that pulled [the protester] to the ground or if he tripped,’’ said Sgt. Swain. “Right before the gentleman punches the protester, the heads of the deputies are down… I don’t think the officer coming up the stairs [behind the protester] saw what happened.’’

“We should have done exactly what we did,’’ the sergeant said. “We didn’t hurt anybody. We did what the Secret Service asked us to do and separate everybody… If you don’t separate and extinguish the problem right there as it occurs, it gets worse. It can escalate so fast it’s hard to control.’’

A Secret Service spokeswoman didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

Asked if the incident cast an unfavorable light on how the sheriff’s office handled security at the Trump event, Sgt. Swain said, “We’ve been the bad guys since Ferguson. We’re fighting an uphill battle for the public’s perception.”

He said the sheriff’s office had a good reputation in the area.

Lewandowski’s explanation to Boyle, said these sources, was that he and Fields had never met before and that he didn’t recognize her as a Breitbart reporter, instead mistaking her for an adversarial member of the mainstream media. Trump’s press secretary, Hope Hicks, didn’t respond to an email seeking comment. Nor did the usually responsive Boyle.

pacino wrote:

“Right before the gentleman punches the protester…

Doll Is Mine wrote:Thoughts on the racist piece of #$!&@ who sucker punched that black kid at the Trump rally because "he might've been an ISIS terrorist"?

It's getting ugly out there. This is today's Republican party.

jerseyhoya wrote:US Virgin Islands GOP voters affirmatively choose a slate of uncommitted delegates rather than support those pledged to Cruz/Trump/Rubio. There's going to be a decent chunk of unpledged delegates on the first ballot. If there's 150 unpledged plus the non-Trump/Cruz delegates (assuming little more gains from Rubio/Kasich), you're looking at like 15% going to not Cruz or Trump.

Cruz really #$!&@ needs to realize, soon, that he's very unlikely to hit a majority of delegates, and needs to stop diminishing the legitimacy of taking the nomination at the convention. He thinks he's likely to get #$!&@ there, because he's a megadouche that no one likes (for good reason), but if the alternative is Trump and he is clearly in second, he'll get the nomination. Trump 1100 Cruz 900 Kasich 200 Rubio 150 Other/Unpledged the rest better #$!&@ end up with Ted Cruz as the nominee. And there's nothing wrong with that because the majority of the party will be in support of the decision rather than just a plurality backing poofyhaired #$!&@. But Ted's trying to deny the legitimacy of winning at the convention because Rubio is in such a delegate hole that that's the only way he can win. Unfortunately this is the sort of chess that makes people hate him, and tends to work in the short term while #$!&@ him in the long run.