Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:29:47

drsmooth wrote:Hoooooooollllllyyyyy shit. Just listened to rancid crapsack AL R congressman Mo Brooks break down yesterday's results.

His analysis is crystalline.

drumpf, in his calculation, was the big loser yesterday, by not winning sufficiently. He emphasized, rightly, that you need DELEGATES to win the nomination, not "state wins" in proportional states. He actually simulated something like ridicule for all the media idiots (he's talking about you, Joe Scarborough, you dumbass) hyperventilating about state wins, and ignoring delegate accumulation.

drumpf now needs to win MAJORITIES of votes in more than a few non winner-take-all states to get to 1,273 before Cleveland, & there's no sign he'll do that in ANY upcoming states. Nobody's coalescing around any drumpf opponent - and not enough are coalescing around drumpf either.

Of course Brooks is agreeing with me, and admittedly he's a moron, but this is a day I never foresaw ever occurring.
The sentiment here isn't incorrect but he did well enough and doesn't need majorities to hit 1,273. I'll pimp this again but 538 (of course 538) has broken down who needs what by when and Trump was the only person to overperform yesterday.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:35:01

drsmooth wrote:Hoooooooollllllyyyyy shit. Just listened to rancid crapsack AL R congressman Mo Brooks break down yesterday's results.

His analysis is crystalline.

drumpf, in his calculation, was the big loser yesterday, by not winning sufficiently. He emphasized, rightly, that you need DELEGATES to win the nomination, not "state wins" in proportional states. He actually simulated something like ridicule for all the media idiots (he's talking about you, Joe Scarborough, you dumbass) hyperventilating about state wins, and ignoring delegate accumulation.

drumpf now needs to win MAJORITIES of votes in more than a few non winner-take-all states to get to 1,273 before Cleveland, & there's no sign he'll do that in ANY upcoming states. Nobody's coalescing around any drumpf opponent - and not enough are coalescing around drumpf either.

Of course Brooks is agreeing with me, and admittedly he's a moron, but this is a day I never foresaw ever occurring.


Tom Delay said something similar last night. I think this is the plan (hope?) for the long time Rs at this point.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:36:32

JUburton wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Hoooooooollllllyyyyy shit. Just listened to rancid crapsack AL R congressman Mo Brooks break down yesterday's results.

His analysis is crystalline.

drumpf, in his calculation, was the big loser yesterday, by not winning sufficiently. He emphasized, rightly, that you need DELEGATES to win the nomination, not "state wins" in proportional states. He actually simulated something like ridicule for all the media idiots (he's talking about you, Joe Scarborough, you dumbass) hyperventilating about state wins, and ignoring delegate accumulation.

drumpf now needs to win MAJORITIES of votes in more than a few non winner-take-all states to get to 1,273 before Cleveland, & there's no sign he'll do that in ANY upcoming states. Nobody's coalescing around any drumpf opponent - and not enough are coalescing around drumpf either.

Of course Brooks is agreeing with me, and admittedly he's a moron, but this is a day I never foresaw ever occurring.
The sentiment here isn't incorrect but he did well enough and doesn't need majorities to hit 1,273. I'll pimp this again but 538 (of course 538) has broken down who needs what by when and Trump was the only person to overperform yesterday.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/ele ... e-targets/



my favorite part is the frumpy drawings of the candidates.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Brantt » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:40:16

CalvinBall wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Hoooooooollllllyyyyy #$!&@. Just listened to rancid crapsack AL R congressman Mo Brooks break down yesterday's results.

His analysis is crystalline.

drumpf, in his calculation, was the big loser yesterday, by not winning sufficiently. He emphasized, rightly, that you need DELEGATES to win the nomination, not "state wins" in proportional states. He actually simulated something like ridicule for all the media idiots (he's talking about you, Joe Scarborough, you dumbass) hyperventilating about state wins, and ignoring delegate accumulation.

drumpf now needs to win MAJORITIES of votes in more than a few non winner-take-all states to get to 1,273 before Cleveland, & there's no sign he'll do that in ANY upcoming states. Nobody's coalescing around any drumpf opponent - and not enough are coalescing around drumpf either.

Of course Brooks is agreeing with me, and admittedly he's a moron, but this is a day I never foresaw ever occurring.


Tom Delay said something similar last night. I think this is the plan (hope?) for the long time Rs at this point.


If their "plan" comes to fruition, the Democrats will win massively across the board. And the Republicans will deserve everything they get.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby heyeaglefn » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:46:01

Democrats should win massively across the board no matter what happens.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:47:55

I am concerned that the primary numbers are basically flipped from 2008. About 8 million Rs have voted and 5 million Ds so far. Somewhat concerning.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:49:18

JUburton wrote:The sentiment here isn't incorrect but he did well enough and doesn't need majorities to hit 1,273. I'll pimp this again but 538 (of course 538) has broken down who needs what by when and Trump was the only person to overperform yesterday.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/ele ... e-targets/


He overperformed in their nice model, but last night team 538 also made the range of 'sufficient' delegates needs as of today for drumpf to secure 1,237 delegates as 220 -300. Really? How wet is your finger?

drumpf can win ALL the winner-take-all states, and STILL needs majorities in states where there are lots of adults who do not believe in MAJORITIES that Obama is a Muslim, or in large minorities that the Emancipation Proclamation should be denounced. I'm not sure drumpf's cake is baked, at all.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:51:36

CalvinBall wrote:I am concerned that the primary numbers are basically flipped from 2008. About 8 million Rs have voted and 5 million Ds so far. Somewhat concerning.

I don't know that there's any real correlation between this and general election success. We have more voters, but also more people saying they'd never support various nominees if chosen.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:51:42

CalvinBall wrote:I am concerned that the primary numbers are basically flipped from 2008. About 8 million Rs have voted and 5 million Ds so far. Somewhat concerning.


Multiple-car crashes, and loud fast-moving firetrucks & ambulances, always attract a lot of rubberneckers
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Brantt » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:56:01

CalvinBall wrote:I am concerned that the primary numbers are basically flipped from 2008. About 8 million Rs have voted and 5 million Ds so far. Somewhat concerning.


As crazy as this sounds, Trump is the Republican version of Obama in terms of turnout.

The numbers comparing 2008 and 2016 are crazy.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:56:21

jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:I am concerned that the primary numbers are basically flipped from 2008. About 8 million Rs have voted and 5 million Ds so far. Somewhat concerning.

I don't know that there's any real correlation between this and general election success. We have more voters, but also more people saying they'd never support various nominees if chosen.


Interesting. I just know there has been talk about the vast differences in turnout. Hoping it means nothing as well.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:01:11

CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:I am concerned that the primary numbers are basically flipped from 2008. About 8 million Rs have voted and 5 million Ds so far. Somewhat concerning.

I don't know that there's any real correlation between this and general election success. We have more voters, but also more people saying they'd never support various nominees if chosen.


Interesting. I just know there has been talk about the vast differences in turnout. Hoping it means nothing as well.
It's easier to get more turnout with more candidates but I think there's an inevitability in the democratic race that may be turning people away. The Republican one is 'wide' open (though not as much anymore) so people want to make sure their voices are heard.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Brantt » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:05:13

JUburton wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:I am concerned that the primary numbers are basically flipped from 2008. About 8 million Rs have voted and 5 million Ds so far. Somewhat concerning.

I don't know that there's any real correlation between this and general election success. We have more voters, but also more people saying they'd never support various nominees if chosen.


Interesting. I just know there has been talk about the vast differences in turnout. Hoping it means nothing as well.
It's easier to get more turnout with more candidates but I think there's an inevitability in the democratic race that may be turning people away. The Republican one is 'wide' open (though not as much anymore) so people want to make sure their voices are heard.


They've broken the primary turnout records in every single state contested so far except Vermont.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Soren » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:07:08

Brantt wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Brantt answer these 4 easy questions for us



Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: independence or respect for elders?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: obedience or self-reliance?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: to be considerate or to be well-behaved?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: curiosity or good manners?


I try not to deal in absolutes.


I can't get over this. You're gunning for the guy who ONLY deals in absolutes.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:08:10

our first troll-american as president
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:14:19

drumpf now opining that an open convention subverts the "will of the people", underscoring that he has absolutely zero understanding of what primaries represent, how they work, what their earthly purpose is - or that anyone who knows anything about anything would buy this particular glob of his bullshit. He is an appallingly dim individual.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:23:34

I dunno. I think a brokered convention could be great for Pubs to showcase their talent and views. Reality TV does really well. Maybe they could make it a special season of Survivor, especially since it's going to be based in Cleveland. They could put the candidates in the back of a pickup truck and drop them off in downtown Clevelamd with only a flint (how ironic), a city water source and a few bananas. The winner would be the top Banana Republican! The challenges would be great, e.g., who can throw a Mexican the furthest. If there's a tie at any tribal council, instead making fire they can have a contest of wall-building.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:25:27

Hillary Clinton wrote:America never stopped being great
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby smitty » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:35:15

drsmooth wrote:drumpf now opining that an open convention subverts the "will of the people", underscoring that he has absolutely zero understanding of what primaries represent, how they work, what their earthly purpose is - or that anyone who knows anything about anything would buy this particular glob of his bullshit. He is an appallingly dim individual.


Last brokered convention was 1952 with Adlai Stephenson winning the Dem nomination. That was back in the days primaries didn't mean much.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby MoBettle » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:35:23

Make America Whole again doesn't really make sense.
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