Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Soren » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:12:24

jerseyhoya wrote:
TomatoPie wrote:If you wanted to bet against Drumpf getting the nomination, how would you do it?

I'm smelling some easy money here

Field as GOP nominee is +335 on my online book. Trump is a yuge favorite.


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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:18:08

France is knocking down 'the jungle' in Calais (port city in Northern France) with no viable alternative for any of the refugees. Sounds like a plan.

Soon after he arrived at the so-called “Jungle” migrant camp in Calais, alone and ill from a badly infected cut to his stomach, 12-year-old Wahid was provided with a wooden shack in which to live.

On Tuesday night, his makeshift home demolished by French work crews, he was sleeping just a few hundred metres away, but now inside a small, draughty tent.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Gimpy » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:18:57

Is Trump anyone's number two option? Like will anyone opt for him once their favored candidate drops out?

I know my first question is opening up Trump is poop jokes, but it still stands.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:22:23

Brantt wrote:
MoBettle wrote:Late deciders are not going for trump.


And early deciders who make up the majority of the electorate are going big for him.


not big enough to get the delegate count to secure the nomination before the convention
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Gimpy » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:23:04

Soren wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
TomatoPie wrote:If you wanted to bet against Drumpf getting the nomination, how would you do it?

I'm smelling some easy money here

Field as GOP nominee is +335 on my online book. Trump is a yuge favorite.


Trump wrote:I've got great odds. The best odds. People always tell me my odds are great.

Large, appropriately proportioned, masculine odds.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Soren » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:26:01

Trump wrote:So this guy, what's his name? jerseyhoya or whatever? Never heard of him. He says I said something about my odds. I never said anything about my odds. My odds are great by the way. I don't even need to say anything about them. My odds are the best odds.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:29:43

We need to remember what we are dealing with... in 2011 it was reported that most American's thought that China was the #1 world economy. 5 years later that is still a prevailing thought, but the people polled, both republican and democrat, have a positive feeling that the US might regain the top spot in the not too distant future.

If you are lost, the US economy is, and has been, the world's largest economy by a wide margin by most measures.

Then & Now

China was on track to over take the US on or about 2031, but they have may have had a little mishap since becoming a reserve currency and the market imploding at that very moment.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:32:23

thephan wrote:We need to remember what we are dealing with... in 2011 it was reported that most American's thought that China was the #1 world economy. 5 years later that is still a prevailing thought, but the people polled, both republican and democrat, have a positive feeling that the US might regain the top spot in the not too distant future.

If you are lost, the US economy is, and has been, the world's largest economy by a wide margin by most measures.

Then & Now

China was on track to over take the US on or about 2031, but they have may have had a little mishap since becoming a reserve currency and the market imploding at that very moment.
this reminds me of one of my friends asking me if we're still a superpower. BITCH [he's male so this is ok], WE'RE THE ONLY SUPERPOWER.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:32:25

Gimpy wrote:Is Trump anyone's number two option? Like will anyone opt for him once their favored candidate drops out?

I know my first question is opening up Trump is poop jokes, but it still stands.


No one really knows for sure, but there's some evidence that Cruz voters would split 50/50 for Trump/Rubio. And a lot of Rubio supporters really hate Cruz. I don't know if they hate him more than Trump, but it's really. That view is probably more common with the inside the beltway types than those residing outside of it.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:34:12

JUburton wrote:
thephan wrote:We need to remember what we are dealing with... in 2011 it was reported that most American's thought that China was the #1 world economy. 5 years later that is still a prevailing thought, but the people polled, both republican and democrat, have a positive feeling that the US might regain the top spot in the not too distant future.

If you are lost, the US economy is, and has been, the world's largest economy by a wide margin by most measures.

Then & Now

China was on track to over take the US on or about 2031, but they have may have had a little mishap since becoming a reserve currency and the market imploding at that very moment.
this reminds me of one of my friends asking me if we're still a superpower. BITCH [he's male so this is ok], WE'RE THE ONLY SUPERPOWER.

but what about Crimea
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 02, 2016 13:40:23

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 02, 2016 14:10:55

Apparently Romney - remember Romney? - has decided to hold himself a presser tomorrow. Just a disinterested observer, offering his disinterested observations, no doubt....
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 14:11:18

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Brantt answer these 4 easy questions for us



Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: independence or respect for elders?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: obedience or self-reliance?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: to be considerate or to be well-behaved?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: curiosity or good manners?
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TomatoPie » Wed Mar 02, 2016 14:17:24

pacino wrote: but now inside a small, draughty tent.


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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TomatoPie » Wed Mar 02, 2016 14:18:28

Gimpy wrote:Is Trump anyone's number two option? Like will anyone opt for him once their favored candidate drops out?

I know my first question is opening up Trump is poop jokes, but it still stands.


Hell no.

Edit: Misunderstood the question. I thought it was "would Rube or J Cruz pick Drumpf as VP if they snatch the nomination from him."

But sadly, yeah, I think a lot of Cruzers and some Rubes would go to Drumpf if their guy dropped out. Which is why RnC (and kasich) are doing us a YUGE favor by staying in the race and denying delegates to VulgarMart.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TomatoPie » Wed Mar 02, 2016 14:19:51

thephan wrote:We need to remember what we are dealing with... in 2011 it was reported that most American's thought that China was the #1 world economy. 5 years later that is still a prevailing thought, but the people polled, both republican and democrat, have a positive feeling that the US might regain the top spot in the not too distant future.

If you are lost, the US economy is, and has been, the world's largest economy by a wide margin by most measures.

Then & Now

China was on track to over take the US on or about 2031, but they have may have had a little mishap since becoming a reserve currency and the market imploding at that very moment.


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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Mar 02, 2016 14:29:43

drsmooth wrote:Apparently Romney - remember Romney? - has decided to hold himself a presser tomorrow. Just a disinterested observer, offering his disinterested observations, no doubt....



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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Mar 02, 2016 14:35:59

pacino wrote:Republicans will back Trump if he's their nominee. They're going to use him as much as he's using them. Let's be real here. They give him some whistles. Their voters will forget their previous declarations. All the Cruz voters will realize he's not any different than Cruz; same with Rubio. It'll be another tight race for the president. Clinton will win, but it won't be a landslide, I don't think. It'll be a landslide like Obama-McCain but not affect down ballot near as much.


I tend to agree with this. Thinking the Pubs will ultimately take a principled stand against Trump is like thinking the mouse will take a principled stand against cheese food. If that's all there is, close enough! Once they reach the acceptance stage, they're not going to vote for Hillary and they'll accept that a "third option" is not in their best interests. When so much is on the line I think it's fantasy to expect people to vote against their own interests or sit it out.

And I'm very, very concerned that the general election will be much closer than most people are thinking. As I've said before, between now and the general election there's not going to be much mind-changing among the electorate between Hillary and The Donald. It's going to be about getting out the vote. Trump is compiling an impressive track record of doing that. Hillary, not so much. Plus, I think Trump may have a secret weapon: The Closet Trumpsters: People (including Dems) who secretly admire him and are sick of establishment candidates (read: Hillary), but are too embarrassed to admit publicly they'll support Trump.

I disagree with the conventional wisdom from both sides that Trump is unelectable. He's become a phenomenon. If he turns out the voters as he's done in the primaries plus The Closet Trumpsters he could win. Frankly, I think it's even possible he could win big. The Dems are going to have to use everything in their arsenal to turn out the vote. If they think that attacking him is going to erode his support, they're whistling in the dark. No one -- not even the Nazis themselves -- ever thought Hitler would ultimately gain power by political means. Von Hindenburg himself (then the President of Germany, i.e., The Establishment) detested Hitler but ending up appointing him Chancellor. He even ended up issuing the Reichstag Fire Decree, which suspended various civil liberties, and signed the Enabling Act of 1933, which gave essentially made Hitler dictator in all but name.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby TomatoPie » Wed Mar 02, 2016 14:38:36

With the caveat that Breitbart is rarely right on anything, some speculation that Mitt will try to "soak up" primary votes and deny nomination to Drumpf on the first ballot:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... the-wings/
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 15:09:32

Carson not going forward but not officially suspending his campaign. :ce:

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