Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 02, 2016 09:22:14

JUburton wrote:Public speaker, showman, whatever you want to call it. If you can get a large number of people to buy the shit content you're selling, you're doing something right.

He's obviously not one in the traditional sense, like Obama is. When I watch him I'm probably almost as disgusted as you are but I certainly can see how that affect appeals to the uninformed.


If I took a dump on a stage at a monster truck rally a majority of the attending spectators would swarm to see it. pace Frank Zappa, that is not 'charisma' or ' showmanship' or anything approaching it. If you touch a working cattle prod to a heifer, it'll flinch.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 09:23:14

SK790 wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
JUburton wrote:He's a great public speaker


no. No, he manifestly is not. He speaks, in public. Anyone can do that. his slovenly appearance, indifference to preparation, revolting physical tics, pig faced pouty preening, jump-cut delivery, and overall disgusting presence makes him everything but a "great" public speaker. I have to resist throwing things at my teevee within 15 seconds of his face or merely his voice blaring into view.

His "public speaking" mannerisms remind me nothing so much as of this guy:

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As someone who has taken broadcast classes and has to basically think about communicating well at my job, I can agree. He speaks to people like he's addressing children. Short sentences, simple cadence, no nuance; why people find that appealing is beyond me.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby MoBettle » Wed Mar 02, 2016 09:23:32

The weirdest part, and this is something that someone said on CNN last night, is that he's a New York billionaire talking like a caricature of a New York billionaire and it's resonating with a lot of rural voters.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 02, 2016 09:25:43

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 02, 2016 09:33:48

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 09:37:29

Samantha Bee did a bit on that in this week's Full Frontal.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Mar 02, 2016 09:44:57

MoBettle wrote:The weirdest part, and this is something that someone said on CNN last night, is that he's a New York billionaire talking like a caricature of a New York billionaire and it's resonating with a lot of rural voters.


A lifelong New York City resident, twice-divorced and former liberal is dominating the solid South, evangelical voters and rural Republicans and is the leader for the Republican nomination. Who had that one in Fantasy Politics?
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Brantt » Wed Mar 02, 2016 09:48:49

Interesting article by Tavis Smiley.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... /81150932/

This is a sentiment Van Jones has been saying on CNN for weeks. There are plenty of people tied to the african american communities and political groups that believe Trump is going to perform very well with them in the general.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 09:58:28

Brantt wrote:Interesting article by Tavis Smiley.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... /81150932/

This is a sentiment Van Jones has been saying on CNN for weeks. There are plenty of people tied to the african american communities and political groups that believe Trump is going to perform very well with them in the general.


Data says yes it's possible and it's likely that numbers will rebound from the Obama vs. McCain/Romney numbers. However, Clinton is absolutely crushing the black vote currently. She outperformed in SC compared to Obama in 2008.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/trump- ... lack-vote/
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:01:16

Thanks for the laugh
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:05:55

Trump is going to get all of The Blacks
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:15:06

Brantt answer these 4 easy questions for us



Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: independence or respect for elders?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: obedience or self-reliance?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: to be considerate or to be well-behaved?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: curiosity or good manners?
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:15:13

rubio has done worse than cruz but the early states heavily favor cruz. rubio has had this general plan from the start, and while he's very certainly underperformed (a VA win and TX threshold would have been huge for his narrative), he has a better slate going forward. is rubio the sixers? if he wins florida is that basically trusting the process?

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Brantt » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:19:50

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Brantt answer these 4 easy questions for us



Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: independence or respect for elders?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: obedience or self-reliance?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: to be considerate or to be well-behaved?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: curiosity or good manners?


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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Brantt » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:21:27

JUburton wrote:rubio has done worse than cruz but the early states heavily favor cruz. rubio has had this general plan from the start, and while he's very certainly underperformed (a VA win and TX threshold would have been huge for his narrative), he has a better slate going forward. is rubio the sixers? if he wins florida is that basically trusting the process?


Rubio is a blowout loss in Florida away from possibly tanking his entire political career.

There has to be a big part of him that is thinking strongly about bailing out before 3/15 if he gets hammered on Saturday and in Michigan.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby SK790 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:21:33

JUburton wrote:
SK790 wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
JUburton wrote:He's a great public speaker


no. No, he manifestly is not. He speaks, in public. Anyone can do that. his slovenly appearance, indifference to preparation, revolting physical tics, pig faced pouty preening, jump-cut delivery, and overall disgusting presence makes him everything but a "great" public speaker. I have to resist throwing things at my teevee within 15 seconds of his face or merely his voice blaring into view.

His "public speaking" mannerisms remind me nothing so much as of this guy:

Image

As someone who has taken broadcast classes and has to basically think about communicating well at my job, I can agree. He speaks to people like he's addressing children. Short sentences, simple cadence, no nuance; why people find that appealing is beyond me.
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:24:25

Brantt wrote:
JUburton wrote:rubio has done worse than cruz but the early states heavily favor cruz. rubio has had this general plan from the start, and while he's very certainly underperformed (a VA win and TX threshold would have been huge for his narrative), he has a better slate going forward. is rubio the sixers? if he wins florida is that basically trusting the process?


Rubio is a blowout loss in Florida away from possibly tanking his entire political career.

There has to be a big part of him that is thinking strongly about bailing out before 3/15 if he gets hammered on Saturday and in Michigan.
I don't buy that narrative. The damage has been done and I don't think the story in 4 years changes whatsoever if it's 'this guy couldn't beat Trump!' vs. 'this guy couldn't beat Trump and lost his home state!'

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby Soren » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:24:48

he can't win right? I don't have to worry about this?
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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:25:27

Brantt wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Brantt answer these 4 easy questions for us



Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: independence or respect for elders?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: obedience or self-reliance?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: to be considerate or to be well-behaved?
Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: curiosity or good manners?


I try not to deal in absolutes.

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Re: Brokered Convention is the GOPs Trump Card: Politics

Postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:25:56

Hoooooooollllllyyyyy shit. Just listened to rancid crapsack AL R congressman Mo Brooks break down yesterday's results.

His analysis is crystalline.

drumpf, in his calculation, was the big loser yesterday, by not winning sufficiently. He emphasized, rightly, that you need DELEGATES to win the nomination, not "state wins" in proportional states. He actually simulated something like ridicule for all the media idiots (he's talking about you, Joe Scarborough, you dumbass) hyperventilating about state wins, and ignoring delegate accumulation.

drumpf now needs to win MAJORITIES of votes in more than a few non winner-take-all states to get to 1,273 before Cleveland, & there's no sign he'll do that in ANY upcoming states. Nobody's coalescing around any drumpf opponent - and not enough are coalescing around drumpf either.

Of course Brooks is agreeing with me, and admittedly he's a moron, but this is a day I never foresaw ever occurring.
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