Wow, the governor of #NewJersey is backing a loud mouth bully who makes shady business deals. Shocker

traderdave wrote:Oh I'm with you; I do not like Rubio at all. But I did enjoy him making Trump look bad.

jerseyhoya wrote:

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CalvinBall wrote:

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JUburton wrote:It's not too late, but if Rubio misses the delegate threshold in a few states on Tuesday he's in trouble. And if he doesn't win Florida, it's over.

We could be looking at presumptive nominee Trump in 18 days.

Rubio needs to close a possible 10 point gap after a debate 4 days before Super Tuesday.

Rubio SHOULD beat the most recent polls by a good amount on Tuesday.

why?

Even the most recent polls going into Tuesday will include a large sample polled before the debate. If the debate is a needle mover, that will be underreported in the polls.

Also he's outperformed his polls by a good bit in Iowa, SC, and Nevada, and the exit polls have consistently shown people who make their minds up in the last few days before the election are picking Rubio. And his SuperPAC is up on the air most places I think. I saw commercials hitting Trump/Cruz, pushing Rubio during Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy last night. Don't know if it will be enough to win anywhere, but if he hits the delegate thresholds everywhere Trump's delegate lead will remain very surmountable.

Monkeyboy wrote:But how long before someone forces him off script and he pees himself in front of thousands?

Come to think of it, I haven't heard Trump hit Rubio about the robot/Christie thing. Has he done so? If not, just a few barbs from Trump will end the Rubmentum. Rubio has given opponents A LOT to work with.

Monkeyboy wrote:But how long before someone forces him off script and he pees himself in front of thousands?

Come to think of it, I haven't heard Trump hit Rubio about the robot/Christie thing. Has he done so? If not, just a few barbs from Trump will end the Rubmentum. Rubio has given opponents A LOT to work with.

pacino wrote:i think it says a lot more about christie than it does about trump. the former craves attention/power as much or more than trump. 4 years ago i honestly wouldn't have seen such a precipitous fall out of him

jerseyhoya wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:But how long before someone forces him off script and he pees himself in front of thousands?

Come to think of it, I haven't heard Trump hit Rubio about the robot/Christie thing. Has he done so? If not, just a few barbs from Trump will end the Rubmentum. Rubio has given opponents A LOT to work with.

Have you ever watched Rubio speak? Outside of the NH debate, can you recall him getting rattled and fucking up? I really do not understand this line of thinking.

jerseyhoya wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:But how long before someone forces him off script and he pees himself in front of thousands?

Come to think of it, I haven't heard Trump hit Rubio about the robot/Christie thing. Has he done so? If not, just a few barbs from Trump will end the Rubmentum. Rubio has given opponents A LOT to work with.

Have you ever watched Rubio speak? Outside of the NH debate, can you recall him getting rattled and fucking up? I really do not understand this line of thinking.

Monkeyboy wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:But how long before someone forces him off script and he pees himself in front of thousands?

Come to think of it, I haven't heard Trump hit Rubio about the robot/Christie thing. Has he done so? If not, just a few barbs from Trump will end the Rubmentum. Rubio has given opponents A LOT to work with.

Have you ever watched Rubio speak? Outside of the NH debate, can you recall him getting rattled and fucking up? I really do not understand this line of thinking.

The response to the SOTU and the Christie debate and articles I've read that make him sound like a weenie scared of his own shadow or at least bad under pressure. He probably isn't really a weenie, but he has shown signs of freezing up and being very noticeably nervous under the gun. That's a bad characteristic in a potential POTUS nominee.

Honestly, I can't think of another major presidential candidate that I've seen look so flustered on multiple occasions. And you know as well as I do that it only takes one major thing like that to end a campaign or even a career. I can't think of worse things to look like than a robot or someone who freezes under pressure. Opponents can beat him over the head with that if they're inclined. At this point, he's not enough of a threat to risk the backlash for GOP establishment or voters, but if he really starts to make a move, Trump or someone else will go after those obvious faults. Signs of weakness is a terminal disease for a POTUS candidate, especially one on the right.

TomatoPie wrote:Dems Will Do the Hatchet Job on DumbOld Chump

mozartpc27 wrote:What I have noticed about Rubio lately is that he has learns. He had cotton mouth for one speech and needed water - hasn't happened since. Last night, he made it obvious he had turned a humiliation into a useful lesson, and correctly applied the tactics that were used on him in one debate on another candidate in this debate, to great effect.

Monkeyboy wrote:Trump admired the way Christie took down Rubio. Don't be surprised if Christie is the VP pick.

He could hang with Clinton in a verbal sparring match.

Doll Is Mine wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:What I have noticed about Rubio lately is that he has learns. He had cotton mouth for one speech and needed water - hasn't happened since. Last night, he made it obvious he had turned a humiliation into a useful lesson, and correctly applied the tactics that were used on him in one debate on another candidate in this debate, to great effect.

He gets cottonmouth and his forehead glistens every time he makes a speech.

mozartpc27 wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:What I have noticed about Rubio lately is that he has learns. He had cotton mouth for one speech and needed water - hasn't happened since. Last night, he made it obvious he had turned a humiliation into a useful lesson, and correctly applied the tactics that were used on him in one debate on another candidate in this debate, to great effect.

He gets cottonmouth and his forehead glistens every time he makes a speech.

Meh. Cottonmouth doesn't necessarily mean nervous. I get it sometimes when I teach and have to talk a lot. I can assure you that addressing a bunch of undergraduates has long since failed to unnerve me.

Doll Is Mine wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

mozartpc27 wrote:What I have noticed about Rubio lately is that he has learns. He had cotton mouth for one speech and needed water - hasn't happened since. Last night, he made it obvious he had turned a humiliation into a useful lesson, and correctly applied the tactics that were used on him in one debate on another candidate in this debate, to great effect.

He gets cottonmouth and his forehead glistens every time he makes a speech.

Meh. Cottonmouth doesn't necessarily mean nervous. I get it sometimes when I teach and have to talk a lot. I can assure you that addressing a bunch of undergraduates has long since failed to unnerve me.

It doesn't matter what it means. It's the perception. He can't get thru 5 minutes of a speech without constantly licking his lips. It's not exactly a stretch to say he's nervous when it in fact reinforces his label of the guy who had that water incident as well as his meltdown in the debate.

And he also looks 15 which doesn't help.