Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Feb 10, 2016 20:14:07

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby momadance » Wed Feb 10, 2016 22:27:28

Ted Cruz just said the North Korea could launch a nuke from the satellite they just launched into space. NK apparently has nukes stashed in space. I shit you not. If you actually believe that, I suggest you seek professional help. Not only that, do the human race a favor and turn in your voter registration card. If you vote for Ted Cruz, you are dumber than dirt. Which is hard because dirt doesn't have an IQ, but your IQ is less than zero. How does that feel? You, my Cruz supporting friends, are morons.

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby Bucky » Wed Feb 10, 2016 22:30:50

i'm incredulous, so i'm going to try to qualify this. Did he really mean that the actual nuke itself would come from the satellite? Or that they could use the satellite to relay launch instructions? Because when I start my car with my cell phone, if I'm far enough away I'm actually starting my car from a "satellite in space".

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby Wolfgang622 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 22:38:44

TenuredVulture wrote:What Sanders has done is taken some basic values of the left, and distilled them into appealing platitudes. In this respect, he's doing something quite like Ronald Reagan did with conservatism back in the eighties. I don't know if Sanders will be as effective in governing on the off chance he actually wins, I don't know if he'll help the Dems capture the Senate, and I don't know if any other Dem out there can build on the rhetorical progress, but there's just such a huge appeal to statements like: "Nobody who works 40 hours should live in poverty" it should be obvious why he's doing so well.

Again, look at his Iowa ad--it's moving. It speaks to an patriotic and optimistic and even idealistic young person.

Another interesting parallel--Reagan was also an old man who had an unusual ability to connect with young, first time voters.


Coincidentally, I was thinking about this morning was that Bernie is attempting to essentially reverse the process that began in 1976 and culminated in 1980 with Reagan's election: that is, target those same voters - or types of voters - who were then known as "Reagan Democrats" (people like my Dad, from a working class background, economically somewhat populist but deeply suspicious of social programs perceived to favor minorities and generally socially conservative, who voted Reagan and then became and stayed Republican). They were 30-something baby-boomers then who grew up in New Deal households. They voted Republican because of a lot of factors, one of which being a feeling of frustration with a Democratic party that they perceived did nothing for them.

Bernie seems to be, in some senses, making a direct appeal to win those voters - or perhaps the disillusioned children of those voters, who had the inverse of their parents' experiences, growing up in Reagan rather than New Deal households. The New Dealer in me thinks its a disgrace that Appalachia votes Republican, but then people like pacino remind me about how uncomfortably racist and parochial that section of the country tends to be.
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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby Bucky » Wed Feb 10, 2016 23:04:39

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 10, 2016 23:06:39

beat me to it, Buck

NY Daily News has gone down a curious cultural path recently. It's been ridiculing native-son Turnip since he announced his campaign
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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 10, 2016 23:23:10

The New Dealer in me thinks its a disgrace that Appalachia votes Republican, but then people like pacino remind me about how uncomfortably racist and parochial that section of the country tends to be.

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 10, 2016 23:48:02

Main Governor LePage admits he meant black people when he went on racist rant

Gov. Paul LePage said Tuesday that “I had to go screaming at the top of my lungs about black dealers” and make other “outrageous comments” to force the Legislature to take the state’s drug crisis seriously.
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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby Gimpy » Thu Feb 11, 2016 00:53:03

momadance wrote:Ted Cruz just said the North Korea could launch a nuke from the satellite they just launched into space. NK apparently has nukes stashed in space. I shit you not. If you actually believe that, I suggest you seek professional help. Not only that, do the human race a favor and turn in your voter registration card. If you vote for Ted Cruz, you are dumber than dirt. Which is hard because dirt doesn't have an IQ, but your IQ is less than zero. How does that feel? You, my Cruz supporting friends, are morons.


Did you see this thing I posted the other day?

Gimpy wrote:No wonder Cruz keeps saying amazingly ignorant things about military strategy- his national security advisor is hilariously unqualified.

Victoria Coates graduated college in the early 1990s. In a recent interview with Breitbart, she said that she "missed being a double-major in political science by one class credit." So close! She stayed in academia, gaining a Masters degree and then, in 1998, a PhD in Art History, in which her specialization was the Italian Renaissance. From 2010 to 2013, she was a "Consulting Curator" at the Cleveland Museum of Art, at which she was an expert for their show "Last Days of Pompeii." Her only book, which just came out, is a book called David's Sling: A History of Democracy in Ten Works of Art.


She was the editor for Rumsfeld's book in 2007.

But working for Donald Rumsfeld was enough to get her a gig with Texan Rick Perry, her first as a "national security expert" when he took a run at the Presidency from late 2011 through the beginning of 2012.

From there she went on to a one-year position as "adjunct fellow" at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, the neo-con foundation in downtown DC set up in the wake of September 11. Even there, however, it is difficult to see what she actually did, or more importantly learned. The foundation did not publish any work she had written.

Indeed it appears she's only ever written five short articles in the past decade, and all of them were of little more substance than an op-ed: Two for the Weekly Standard, and three blog posts on the conservative blog Redstate, none of which were exactly rigorous scholarship.

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 11, 2016 00:53:45

The big thing now is people are mad that super delegates are going for Clinton. Maybe Bernie shoulder tried to court them, or be a Democrat, or try to support other Democrats. Just an establishment thought.
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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Thu Feb 11, 2016 01:00:01

of course Bernie will never get the nomination but it's worth supporting him so people who consider themselves Democrats might realize that the party doesn't care a bit about their interests and is only out for themselves

curious how you think he could court superdelegates though

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 11, 2016 01:04:32

He cant.

Bernie isn't good for that at all. He's good to help bring the party to the values of the voters. You're so negative.
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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Feb 11, 2016 09:56:35

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby Brantt » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:12:08

drsmooth wrote:
Brantt wrote:Once Hillary defeats Bernie, there will be a lot of Bernie supporters who go to support Trump.

There is a lot of people who are like me.............Trump 1, Bernie 2. Or Bernie 1, Trump 2.


No sentient mammal is going to waste a vote on Turnip. He's a repulsive clown, an empty suit, a profoundly ill-informed adult, and a loser. And that's just drawing on 'conventional' Republicans' array of attitudes about him.

Turnip is loathed by a bigger % of the R party than his share of primary votes. His 30ish % in NH is less than "the college of establishment Rs" garnered.

In a general election, vs a cardboard cutout of Martin O'Malley, Turnip would perform worse than Goldwater.


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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:14:09

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:19:54

drsmooth wrote:
No sentient mammal is going to waste a vote on Turnip.


Absolutely correct.

Sadly, our election laws do not stipulate "sentient" as a voter qualification. What's scary is that a pro wrestler was elected governor of one state and an SNL comedian was elected to the US senate. How far are we away from electing pr0n actresses like Italy does?

Having said that, I remain encouraged that 2/3 of GOP primary voters oppose Dumb-old Chump (respecting our root veg brethern here). As the clown car empties out, someone should be able to make him a distant memory. I got $100 riding on it.
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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby Brantt » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:46:23

TomatoPie wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
No sentient mammal is going to waste a vote on Turnip.


Absolutely correct.

Sadly, our election laws do not stipulate "sentient" as a voter qualification. What's scary is that a pro wrestler was elected governor of one state and an SNL comedian was elected to the US senate. How far are we away from electing pr0n actresses like Italy does?

Having said that, I remain encouraged that 2/3 of GOP primary voters oppose Dumb-old Chump (respecting our root veg brethern here). As the clown car empties out, someone should be able to make him a distant memory. I got $100 riding on it.


Didn't Mary Carey have a nice run in Cali?
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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby JUburton » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:48:10

If Trump goes against Hillary the map will look closer to McCain v. Obama than Romney v. Obama and Romney got slaughtered.

The path to victory for the republicans is borderline impossible if they lose OH and FL. Good luck getting a relatively moderate state like OH and a state with a 23% hispanic population to vote for Trump.

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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:49:11

Brantt wrote:Didn't Mary Carey have a nice run in Cali?


I have no idea who this person is but you've just penned a deft lyric for some kind of cabaret song about her
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Re: Primary Cholers, or the Caucusin' Chat Circle (Politics)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:54:11

Didn't Mary Carey have a nice run in Cali/
She sure was a dilly, but sadly didn't tally

Nor did she dally, though she diddled dudes daily/
Gosh that Mary Carey had a sweet run in Cali
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