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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Nov 18, 2015 17:37:45

Laura Haim needs to sport a wide-brim fedora and brandish a lit Gitane to round out her oldskool international newsgal persona
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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Wed Nov 18, 2015 17:38:30

Laura Haim is badass.

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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Wed Nov 18, 2015 17:45:26

How are these terrorists traveling all these miles? I get to the train station from my apartment in the morning, just a few blocks, and I'm like over it, ready to go home.

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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Nov 18, 2015 21:42:14

Daniel Gordis, Jewish author, on Facebook

If in case it was all too confusing for you, here's a summary:

President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels (who are good) started winning (hurrah!).

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad!) while some continued to support democracy (who are still good.)

So the Americans (who are good ) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad ) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good ) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

There is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS (which is good) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so the U.S. says they are bad while secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria.

So President Putin (who is bad because he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks, including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi, has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad ) which is sort of a good thing (!?).

But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons with which to bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad which is good, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except that silly anti-Semite who leads the Labor Party, Mr. Corbyn in the corduroy jacket, who is bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good/bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (super bad -- see Paris, November 2015).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS and, because Putin and Iran are also fighting IS, that may now make them good. America (still good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr. Putin (now good) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran (also good?) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only consistently bad).

To Sunni Muslims an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War. Therefore, the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as good (duh).

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (might have a point?) and hence we will be seen as bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad ) many of whom are looking to IS (good/bad ) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also good) and Putin (now, straining credulity, good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started.

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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby Bucky » Wed Nov 18, 2015 21:58:03

he left a dangling open paren so nothing he is saying can be taken seriously

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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby pacino » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:20:43

Hollande wants tochange the constitution so he can perpetually invoke a state of emergency. A SoE is not the same in France as here:

The modifications would allow the executive to activate the state of emergency as it would a state of siege, rather than follow the current process of seeking approval from lawmakers.

“What the president wants, as far as I have understood him, is to give a constitutional foundation to the state of emergency, which it presently doesn’t have,” says Otto Pfersmann, professor of constitutional law at the School for Advanced Studies in Social Sciences in Paris.

Although the president can currently activate a state of emergency of up to 12 days by decree and ask for it to be extended by a parliamentary vote, Pfersmann explains it still “exists at only a statutory level, which precisely because of this reason, has very weak foundations in terms of the rule of law”.

The state of emergency, as defined by a law passed in 1955, allows severe restrictions of civil liberties and could involve curfews, restricted movements, house arrests, closing public establishments, expanded powers for police to make arrests and to control the press and broadcast media, all of which are liberties the constitution is meant to guarantee.

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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby Soren » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:35:42

A SOCIALIST wants to tighten EXECUTIVE GRIP ON SOCIAL LIBERTIES?
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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:37:50

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Daniel Gordis, Jewish author, on Facebook

If in case it was all too confusing for you, here's a summary:

President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels (who are good) started winning (hurrah!).

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad!) while some continued to support democracy (who are still good.)

So the Americans (who are good ) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad ) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good ) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

There is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS (which is good) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so the U.S. says they are bad while secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria.

So President Putin (who is bad because he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks, including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi, has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad ) which is sort of a good thing (!?).

But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons with which to bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad which is good, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except that silly anti-Semite who leads the Labor Party, Mr. Corbyn in the corduroy jacket, who is bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good/bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (super bad -- see Paris, November 2015).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS and, because Putin and Iran are also fighting IS, that may now make them good. America (still good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr. Putin (now good) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran (also good?) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only consistently bad).

To Sunni Muslims an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War. Therefore, the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as good (duh).

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (might have a point?) and hence we will be seen as bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad ) many of whom are looking to IS (good/bad ) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also good) and Putin (now, straining credulity, good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started.

Got it?

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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby drsmooth » Thu Nov 19, 2015 13:13:03

Mike McCaul (R-TX) allowing as to how his bill is measured & well-balanced, despite being basically written on a napkin a day or so ago and not subject to any kind of discussion, input from security authorities, etc.

Are there any adults in Texas, at all?
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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby BigEd76 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 13:28:19


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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby 1 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 13:35:25

BigEd76 wrote:got um

Police fired around 5,000 rounds of ammunition in the confrontation
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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby pacino » Thu Nov 19, 2015 13:37:01

that's a lot of bullets
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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby Soren » Thu Nov 19, 2015 13:42:21

Righty before this happened I had just started relistening to the hardcore history series on WWI. It's hard not to look at the web of alliances in Syria and wonder if we aren't working our way into a similar situation where we're compelled to fight despite it being in everyone's least interest.
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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Nov 19, 2015 13:45:30

Guess the Post was right all along
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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby smitty » Thu Nov 19, 2015 13:47:57

It's a ton. I think the bad guys werebarricaded.

Anyways, there's also a thing called sympathetic fire.

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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby Houshphandzadeh » Thu Nov 19, 2015 14:06:35

pacino wrote:that's a lot of bullets

can't risk a trial, who knows what would come out

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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby philliesphhan » Thu Nov 19, 2015 14:32:57

BigEd76 wrote:got um


Weird seeing video of ringleader of terrorist attack in seemingly a minivan
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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Thu Nov 19, 2015 15:05:32

drsmooth wrote:Mike McCaul (R-TX) allowing as to how his bill is measured & well-balanced, despite being basically written on a napkin a day or so ago and not subject to any kind of discussion, input from security authorities, etc.

Are there any adults in Texas, at all?

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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby pacino » Thu Nov 19, 2015 15:07:23

jerseyhoya wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Mike McCaul (R-TX) allowing as to how his bill is measured & well-balanced, despite being basically written on a napkin a day or so ago and not subject to any kind of discussion, input from security authorities, etc.

Are there any adults in Texas, at all?

47 House Democrats join a veto proof majority in passage

are YOU for it? Or did you come in for political points?
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Re: Paris attacks

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Thu Nov 19, 2015 15:29:20

what's a Texas democrat?
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