Bucky wrote:yep, al-queda is all about dem eggs

Why are we even thinking about taking in refugees, when we have problems like these that we should be taking care of first?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-how-los-angeles-homeless-crisis-got-so-bad-20150922-story.html

There are 26,000 people living on the streets of just LA. Many of these people are mentally ill too. Let's take care of Americans first before we deal with someone else's problems.

Get out of my Facebook!

az going on a weird conservative bender is not what I expected out of this thread.

Soren wrote:az going on a weird conservative bender is not what I expected out of this thread.

tell him if we're concerned about people's safety we should keep better track of guns

I love the guy but he lives in AZ, he's a few huevos shy of a ranchero anyways

cant have any opinions in this thread. like walking on egg shells around you people.

I'ma let that one slide, Calvin, just this once

Soren wrote:az going on a weird conservative bender is not what I expected out of this thread.

Not really all that conservative... I just think both republicans and democrats don't know how to properly prioritize issues at hand. Both have some good ideas, if the stupid name calling and partisan stuff would stop. That also includes many, if not most of their supporters.

It's not an either or thing. We have the resources to do both.

Soren wrote:It's not an either or thing. We have the resources to do both.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

We really do?

Yes, we really do.

We have resources for everything! Healthcare! Unemployment! You name it!!

not really the thread for it, but our taxes are fairly low. we could raise 'em to pay for things.

azrider wrote:

Soren wrote:It's not an either or thing. We have the resources to do both.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

We really do?

Pro tip: gov'ts have always been in debt. It's a bill we owe ourselves, and won't ever actually pay off. Sure, govt's have gotten into trouble by swinging from the chandeliers. Amazingly enough we are not really doing that right now.

But as a day-trading financier type, you understand the distinctions between the debts of nation-states and the debts of joe blow on the street, and are just posting this out of some reflex.

pacino wrote:not really the thread for it, but our taxes are fairly low. we could raise 'em to pay for things.

Yeah, but the debt clock link...

drsmooth wrote:

azrider wrote:

Soren wrote:It's not an either or thing. We have the resources to do both.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

We really do?

Pro tip: gov'ts have always been in debt. It's a bill we owe ourselves, and won't ever actually pay off. Sure, govt's have gotten into trouble by swinging from the chandeliers. Amazingly enough we are not really doing that right now.

But as a day-trading financier type, you understand the distinctions between the debts of nation-states and the debts of joe blow on the street, and are just posting this out of some reflex.

i also understand, but also believe in some sort of fiscal responsibility. with all theese trillions in debt,,, what do we have to show for it? no universal healthcare, a crumbling infrastructure, astonomical education costs, homelessness, a messed up prison system, a declining standard of living for the average american.

i'm in debt, well technically owe money, but i have things like a condo and car to show for it.

We have a massive military.

Our economy sucks if we're not in a state of perpetual war. Maybe we should make more stuff not designed to kill people.

Is there really a declining standard of living for the average American? I feel like most people are doing pretty well, it's still all over the board in terms of upper middle lower class, but is say that the lower and middle classes are more comfortable today than say 20 years ago.

Agree that we could allocate our resources a lot better but I don't think it's a dire as you are making it out.

Bill McNeal wrote:Is there really a declining standard of living for the average American? I feel like most people are doing pretty well, it's still all over the board in terms of upper middle lower class, but is say that the lower and middle classes are more comfortable today than say 20 years ago.

Agree that we could allocate our resources a lot better but I don't think it's a dire as you are making it out.

Says the second richest and most successful guy here.