Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Oct 27, 2015 13:10:25

Jeb is trying to continue the Bush family dream of privatizing Medicare-

http://news.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-plan-pri ... iness.html

should go over like a lead balloon
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Tue Oct 27, 2015 13:52:46

well i earned my lifetime medical insurance, not you
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Oct 27, 2015 14:01:09

maybe just maybe, Medicare could save oodles if the government, being the largest health care group, was allowed to negotiate with drug companies instead of paying full sticker
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Tue Oct 27, 2015 14:08:53

Trump during his 'town hall' which was on the fucking Today show:
“Oh many times. I’ve been told no by him. My whole life, really has been a no," the Republican presidential candidate said during a town hall event in Atkinson, New Hampshire, on NBC's "Today."
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Bucky » Tue Oct 27, 2015 14:23:27

who? obama?

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Tue Oct 27, 2015 14:33:05

whoops, his father. I didn't copy the second part of that quote:

“It has not been easy for me. It has not been easy for me. I started off in Brooklyn. My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars," Trump remarked. "I came into Manhattan, and I had to pay him back, and I had to pay him back with interest. But I came into Manhattan and I started buying properties, and I did great."

FWIW, 1 million in 1971 was 5.76 million in 2014
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Oct 27, 2015 16:22:24

A small loan.

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Oct 27, 2015 16:37:28

Is that Mitt Romney? That's pretty much a 47% remark right there. If he's the nominee, I would hit him over the head with that every single day. Every. Single. Day.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Bucky » Tue Oct 27, 2015 21:11:10

hey but he had to repay WITH INTEREST!!!

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Werthless » Tue Oct 27, 2015 22:25:22

Maybe he used the loan to buy bootstraps.

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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Oct 28, 2015 09:27:40

Why Ted Cruz can't win:
3) Reagan was an exceptional communicator — an ideal candidate to take a brand of right-wing politics that had been fairly fringe and make it mainstream. He honed his skills as the host of TV’s GE Theater, where he advocated for kitchen appliances and economic liberty before a general audience. He was the governor of California, where he faced a robust opposition party. Both his predecessor and successor were Democrats, and he won re-election after a heated campaign in which he garnered only 52 percent of the vote. He had been tested and earned his stripes.

Cruz has only been elected once, in a state where general elections are essentially irrelevant. Certainly he scored a great victory in the Republican primary in 2012, when he defeated David Dewhurst. But he beat Dewhurst the way all Texas Republicans do — by appealing only to the right. His political skills are insular in nature. He’s not an especially charismatic guy outside of tea party meetings.

He has demonstrated an exceptional ability to appeal to movement conservatives. But if he were to win the nomination, the 2016 general election would be the first time Cruz faced the sustained task of winning over people who are not already in agreement with him in his entire political career. And he has shown no great skill at this so far, whether with firefighters or Middle East Christians or Houston businessmen.

That’s the tricky thing about Texas, if you’re a statewide elected official. It’s easy to be elected here, and the state gives you a great big platform in office. But the experience that being elected in Texas provides you is not easily translatable, in part because there’s no strong Democratic party to help train you. That’s one of the things that tripped Rick Perry up. It’s like being a boxer who only fights cardboard cutouts.

Obviously the outlier to this is George Bush, but Ted Cruz is no George Bush.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Soren » Wed Oct 28, 2015 09:43:10

W had that aw shucks everyman appeal. Cruz comes off like a divisive, slimy, opportunistic scumbag.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Oct 28, 2015 09:54:11

The other big difference between Reagan and today's crop of Republicans is that Reagan exuded optimism--almost to the point of seeming delusional. The late 70s were bleak--far bleaker than today. (Who other than Bucky and TP remembers "the misery index"?) Yet Reagan's tone was always upbeat, and he persuaded people that things weren't really so bad, and that our problems could be solved without too much trouble. He wasn't angry, he was hopeful. Today, the mood among Republicans is defeatist and angry. The appeal of someone like Cruz (or even more so Trump or Carson) is that they represent a kind of last ditch desperation Hail Mary type play. Their very unelectability is their appeal. People who support these guys have more or less lost faith in the system.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:30:50

Dennis Hastert gets sentenced today (probably only 6 months)
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby Rev_Beezer » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:33:21

So Donald Trump is a jerk who was raised to be that way by another jerk. Except this jerk wants to be president, and impose his jerk ideology (which is really just "GET MORE MONEYS") on an entire nation.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:33:26

i fail to see why he is going to prison for this (lying to an investigator for paying money to a guy) instead of the actual sexual abuse.

i dont know if it should be illegal to 'structure' your payments, anyway.
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:53:51

pacino wrote:i fail to see why he is going to prison for this (lying to an investigator for paying money to a guy) instead of the actual sexual abuse.



because the victim was paid off to not talk making the case impossible to try
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:00:57

ah

this is some al capone shit, tho
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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:24:56

Werthless wrote:Maybe he used the loan to buy bootstraps.


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Re: Wanted: House Speaker Apply Within (Politics thread)

Postby drsmooth » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:27:27

Soren wrote:Cruz comes off like a divisive, slimy, opportunistic scumbag.
in his defense, he just can't help being authentic
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