mozartpc27 wrote:

SK790 wrote:Human embodiment of a shit stain Bobby Jindal bravely wants to eliminate the corporate tax and the estate tax, but wants to make sure the real moochers in this society pay their fair share: selfish poor people who are paying no taxes.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/bobby-jinda ... 1444172400

Meh, he's just trying to find the magic combination of policy positions that will unlock the key to the presidency; it's like watching someone play the slots or something. What he says is irrelevant, even to him; if he thought that gun control / widely available abortions / flat tax would let him come up aces, he'd be for that - all that matters is that he gets his desired outcome.

Fortunately, he has a chance that is embarrassingly close to mine to claim the prize.

SK790 wrote:

Werthless wrote:

Youseff wrote:in addition to me never meeting a Libertarian that didn't seem like the type of guy that wears white blazers to a dive bar, my least favorite thing about them is their retarded notion that regulating things has no affect on deterring behavior and so we may as well not try.

Huh? I don't even have to purport to speak for all libertarians to counter this, as most libertarians would not make the argument that laws and regulation have no effect on outcomes. I must be misinterpreting your words. Do you actually think libertarians are against government rules and regulations because the laws don't have any effect? The law of unintended consequences is that there are no consequences?

Apparently some white blazer wearer in NYC thinks that. I've run into several libertarians who think that, personally. I think you really don't understand how ignorant some libertarians are on what is actually libertarianism.

Werthless wrote:

SK790 wrote:

Werthless wrote:

Youseff wrote:in addition to me never meeting a Libertarian that didn't seem like the type of guy that wears white blazers to a dive bar, my least favorite thing about them is their retarded notion that regulating things has no affect on deterring behavior and so we may as well not try.

Huh? I don't even have to purport to speak for all libertarians to counter this, as most libertarians would not make the argument that laws and regulation have no effect on outcomes. I must be misinterpreting your words. Do you actually think libertarians are against government rules and regulations because the laws don't have any effect? The law of unintended consequences is that there are no consequences?

Apparently some white blazer wearer in NYC thinks that. I've run into several libertarians who think that, personally. I think you really don't understand how ignorant some libertarians are on what is actually libertarianism.

That's fascinating. these are self-professed libertarians, or people on drugs that are like "government doesn't affect anything, man. no laws matter." So they believe that government has no effect on anything, and that is why they oppose laws about drugs/financial regulation/taxes/etc? That's amazing, although I suppose they could exist.

smitty wrote:Nearly everyone smokes today. Oh, wait, that's in China.

NEW BUSINESS:
1. Budget Transfers.
2. Budget Increases.
3. Other Budget Items.
4. A resolution to approve interlocal cooperation agreement for highway
maintenance with the City of Townsend. (Resolution No. 15-10-003) (Grady
Caskey)
5. Resolution to restructure the Human Resources/Insurance Committee to provide
more equal participation of all departments and employees of Blount County.
(Resolution No. 15-10-004) (Jerome Moon)
6. Resolution to set compensation of School Board Members of Blount County,
Tennessee. (Resolution No. 15-10-005) (Ron French)
7. Resolution condemning judicial tyranny and petitioning God’s mercy. (Resolution No.
15-10-006) (Karen Miller)
8. Letter from State of Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury regarding 2016 fiscal year
budget approval. (Jerome Moon)

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:

NEW BUSINESS:
1. Budget Transfers.
2. Budget Increases.
3. Other Budget Items.
4. A resolution to approve interlocal cooperation agreement for highway
maintenance with the City of Townsend. (Resolution No. 15-10-003) (Grady
Caskey)
5. Resolution to restructure the Human Resources/Insurance Committee to provide
more equal participation of all departments and employees of Blount County.
(Resolution No. 15-10-004) (Jerome Moon)
6. Resolution to set compensation of School Board Members of Blount County,
Tennessee. (Resolution No. 15-10-005) (Ron French)
7. Resolution condemning judicial tyranny and petitioning God’s mercy. (Resolution No.
15-10-006) (Karen Miller)
8. Letter from State of Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury regarding 2016 fiscal year
budget approval. (Jerome Moon)

Werthless wrote:

Youseff wrote:in addition to me never meeting a Libertarian that didn't seem like the type of guy that wears white blazers to a dive bar, my least favorite thing about them is their retarded notion that regulating things has no affect on deterring behavior and so we may as well not try.

Huh? I don't even have to purport to speak for all libertarians to counter this, as most libertarians would not make the argument that laws and regulation have no effect on outcomes. I must be misinterpreting your words. Do you actually think libertarians are against government rules and regulations because the laws don't have any effect? The law of unintended consequences is that there are no consequences?

pacino wrote:Nato/us bombed a Doctor Without Borders hospital in Afghanistan for an hour because we thought some Taliban leaders were there. Killed a bunch of people thqt werent them. We are going to keep the investigation in house. What a joke.

We just fueled the fire of terrorism there. Al queada likes bombings like that.

Youseff wrote:

Werthless wrote:

Youseff wrote:in addition to me never meeting a Libertarian that didn't seem like the type of guy that wears white blazers to a dive bar, my least favorite thing about them is their retarded notion that regulating things has no affect on deterring behavior and so we may as well not try.

Huh? I don't even have to purport to speak for all libertarians to counter this, as most libertarians would not make the argument that laws and regulation have no effect on outcomes. I must be misinterpreting your words. Do you actually think libertarians are against government rules and regulations because the laws don't have any effect? The law of unintended consequences is that there are no consequences?

His name is TP, he likes dough with tomato sauce on it, fat chicks, and possibly underage Asian women.

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:

NEW BUSINESS:
1. Budget Transfers.
2. Budget Increases.
3. Other Budget Items.
4. A resolution to approve interlocal cooperation agreement for highway
maintenance with the City of Townsend. (Resolution No. 15-10-003) (Grady
Caskey)
5. Resolution to restructure the Human Resources/Insurance Committee to provide
more equal participation of all departments and employees of Blount County.
(Resolution No. 15-10-004) (Jerome Moon)
6. Resolution to set compensation of School Board Members of Blount County,
Tennessee. (Resolution No. 15-10-005) (Ron French)
7. Resolution condemning judicial tyranny and petitioning God’s mercy. (Resolution No.
15-10-006) (Karen Miller)
8. Letter from State of Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury regarding 2016 fiscal year
budget approval. (Jerome Moon)

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I guess, but I don't think it's really bad in theory

our current system is pretty absurd as it is

pacino wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I guess, but I don't think it's really bad in theory

our current system is pretty absurd as it is

i get you, but poor people are already paying taxes, just not income tax. it's better to keep status quo than changing it to this, though, imo. no deductions for lower/middle class, keep the deductions for the upper class, shrink government by trillions of dollars, which would then also disproportionately affect the poor, middle class and elderly as well. he just assumes there will be all these new jobs and revenue. if people thought 'obamacare' was a shock to the system, this would be like a knife to the gut.