by Bucky » Tue Sep 22, 2015 08:54:56
pacino wrote:Chris Matthews forgets he was for the Iraq war on TV and declared it won a few months into it. Also said people who didn't like it were envious. He called critics of the Iraq War complainers.
12 years later he shouts down Jorge Ramos on Bill Maher as though he forcefully opposed it.
Are you allowed to retroactively oppose a war?
by pacino » Tue Sep 22, 2015 08:56:43
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:slugsrbad wrote:VW won't go out of business unless a similar thing is discovered in Europe (France and Germany are apparently calling for investigations).
Europe is much less strict with emissions so they most likely wouldn't have needed to.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
by pacino » Tue Sep 22, 2015 08:57:31
Bucky wrote:pacino wrote:Chris Matthews forgets he was for the Iraq war on TV and declared it won a few months into it. Also said people who didn't like it were envious. He called critics of the Iraq War complainers.
12 years later he shouts down Jorge Ramos on Bill Maher as though he forcefully opposed it.
Are you allowed to retroactively oppose a war?
how about when you learn it's not being waged for the reason you were told??
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
by PSUPhilliesPhan » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:02:44
pacino wrote:PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:slugsrbad wrote:VW won't go out of business unless a similar thing is discovered in Europe (France and Germany are apparently calling for investigations).
Europe is much less strict with emissions so they most likely wouldn't have needed to.
Just read an article where they said this very thing, and also that these cars didn't sell as well over there because they didn't have to be offered as an alternative.
by pacino » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:06:09
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:pacino wrote:PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:slugsrbad wrote:VW won't go out of business unless a similar thing is discovered in Europe (France and Germany are apparently calling for investigations).
Europe is much less strict with emissions so they most likely wouldn't have needed to.
Just read an article where they said this very thing, and also that these cars didn't sell as well over there because they didn't have to be offered as an alternative.
Looks like they put it in 11 million cars worldwide. Yeesh. Not surprisingly the CEO just got canned.
A further fall in shares of German carmaker Volkswagen (Xetra: 766400 - news) , which has admitted cheating on vehicle emission tests, also took a toll on the FTSEurofirst, as an investigation of the cheating spread to Asia. VW shares were last down 19 percent. Porsche, part of the VW group, lost 17 percent.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
by slugsrbad » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:15:32
Doll Is Mine wrote:This Ellen DeGeneres look alike on ESPN is annoying. Who the hell is he?
by jamiethekiller » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:17:07
by PSUPhilliesPhan » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:23:34
jamiethekiller wrote:been reading all of these articles. wondering what they're gonna have to do to my car. hope i can get in on a sweet class action
by jamiethekiller » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:26:12
by PSUPhilliesPhan » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:33:25
jamiethekiller wrote:2013 golf TDI. great car. but if i'm going to lose 5+mpg then i'm gonna be pissed and will want to get something new
by TomatoPie » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:34:36
by The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:39:41
pacino wrote:Chris Matthews forgets he was for the Iraq war on TV and declared it won a few months into it. Also said people who didn't like it were envious. He called critics of the Iraq War complainers.
12 years later he shouts down Jorge Ramos on Bill Maher as though he forcefully opposed it.
Are you allowed to retroactively oppose a war?
FTN wrote: im a dick towards everyone, you're not special.
by Slowhand » Tue Sep 22, 2015 09:58:44
by jamiethekiller » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:03:22
by Bucky » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:42:32
by swishnicholson » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:04:08
Bucky wrote:pacino wrote:Chris Matthews forgets he was for the Iraq war on TV and declared it won a few months into it. Also said people who didn't like it were envious. He called critics of the Iraq War complainers.
12 years later he shouts down Jorge Ramos on Bill Maher as though he forcefully opposed it.
Are you allowed to retroactively oppose a war?
how about when you learn it's not being waged for the reason you were told??
by Doll Is Mine » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:36:17
by SK790 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:29:22
drsmooth wrote:SK790 wrote:She's having a few good days here. Her response to the Pharmaceutical Company docsmooth posted about in the Healthcare thread was real good.
I missed it - did she suggest building a YUGE wall to throw Shkreli off of?
Oh, and make him pay for it?
by Soren » Tue Sep 22, 2015 13:41:52
Gov. Chris Christie wants the leader of New Jersey's National Guard to shape up.
The governor has given Air Force Brig. Gen. Michael Cunniff 90 days to slim down and meet his obligations.
The action comes after Christie's staff told The Washington Post that the governor was unaware the general had been reprimanded by the Pentagon about his weight and for repeatedly dodging physical-fitness tests.
The newspaper obtained the records under the Freedom of Information Act.
by SK790 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 13:48:43
