karn wrote:

Youseff wrote:Conservative social media really going in on this poor Ahmed kid. What a shitty political party.

Is it shitty simply to question the story? If so, why? Have you read this piece?

This is one of the few times the comments section is actually a lot more rational than the article. The kid said the whole project took him only few minutes. Are you stuck on whether he "invented" a clock? I'm pretty sure that's been done. It looks like he transferred the workings of an old clock to a pencil case. Not Nobel stuff, but probably interesting enough to a ninth grader.

Having established that the kid didn't pioneer (see what I did there, electronics nerds?) the creation of electronic timepieces, the author somehow makes the leap, or rather, nudges the reader to make the leap, that what he must have created instead is a hoax bomb. Or a bomb hoax. He seems to use these interchangeably, even though they're different. But what both of them need is a hoax-at some point pretending that the object is not benign, but is actually destructive.Do you have any evidence this ever happened?Somehow, I don't think you tend to show a hoax bomb to your teacher or bring it to class with you and show it off as a clock. What the the author actually seems to be claiming is that the student created a hoax clock. Pretending that you have invented a clock may in fact deserve scorn, but I'm pretty sure it's not a terrorist crime at this point.

no, I hadn't read some shitty blog from an anonymous author on the 450 thousandth ranked site in America, karn. thank you for sharing. I'm not really interested in your opinion as it's well established that you're a troll, but I'll briefly say that a 14 year old shouldn't be subjected to the same semantical deconstruction of his language as, say, a politician. If he said that he invented it when he instead bought, deconstructed and rebuilt a clock, it does nothing to change my impression of the story. I don't think it denigrates his character and I definitely don't "wonder what other parts of the story might be made up." What's bad about this situation has been established sufficiently elsewhere so I don't need to repeat it.

This 14 year old was a bit imprecise with his langiage. Fucker.

When the story is promulgated as "Racism in America 101" and deigns a near immediate personal response from the commander in chief then I do think the facts and yes the language of its reportage matters

I simply want to make sure that what we saw occur here actually WAS xenophobia before excoriating the school and the individual players involved in the matter.

There are valid and reasonable questions that can be and should be asked here. The simple asking of those questions does not make the asker anything other than a critical thinker and certainly not a racist, xenophobe, partisan hack, or insensitive trolling right wing blowhard. It does show those who are so eager to denigrate and label the asker as such to be something very unpleasant

It's just wild to me that so many people who are aware of and understand and chirp so frequently about the dishonesty of the media are so content to put all of those thoughts aside when things like this come up.

every post of karn's is just the typed out equivalent of him reapetedly, aggressively & drunkingly kicking the chair of a teenaged girl sitting in front of him at the BSG day Phillies game.

Why is everyone confused about the issues involved in the clock kid's story?

Of COURSE the school should act. They didn't act particularly well, but you want them engaging the kid in some fashion when behavior seems, uhm, out of the ordinary.

Of NOT course is the shitty idiotic way the LOCAL IDIOT POLICE acted. They have a different set of obligations to the kid's rights and totally fucked them. So fuck them, and fuck Mark Cuban, and fuck Bill Maher for being sanctimonious idiot fucks

pacino wrote:FEC now investigating the Cruz PAC donation to the Fiorina one.

Turns out Veterans For A Strong America is a fake veteran's organization that has no membership. Its non-profit status has been revoked and Trump has no idea what the money he raised for them was for or where it went.

Money!

So Trump gets dough for fake groups. Presidential timber there. I guess that's what makes a great businessman.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... 8414275515

karn wrote:When the story is promulgated as "Racism in America 101" and deigns a near immediate personal response from the commander in chief then I do think the facts and yes the language of its reportage matters

I simply want to make sure that what we saw occur here actually WAS xenophobia before excoriating the school and the individual players involved in the matter.

There are valid and reasonable questions that can be and should be asked here. The simple asking of those questions does not make the asker anything other than a critical thinker and certainly not a racist, xenophobe, partisan hack, or insensitive trolling right wing blowhard. It does show those who are so eager to denigrate and label the asker as such to be something very unpleasant

It's just wild to me that so many people who are aware of and understand and chirp so frequently about the dishonesty of the media are so content to put all of those thoughts aside when things like this come up.

Karn

go and summarize the local police response to the situation

Then re-think whether this BS response is the BS response you really want to post related to this.

Those cops treat my kid that way I raise HOLY FUCKING hell all over them

Agree 100% but I'm also 100% not speaking authoritatively on a matter about which the facts are not clear or at least aren't being clearly presented. The parts of the blog I posted that no one seemed eager to engage were the exaltation of victimhood happening around the world and the rush to judgment that accompanies it. Can this story's reporting be described as anything but one sided?

karn wrote:Agree 100% but I'm also 100% not speaking authoritatively on a matter about which the facts are not clear or at least aren't being clearly presented. The parts of the blog I posted that no one seemed eager to engage were the exaltation of victimhood happening around the world and the rush to judgment that accompanies it. Can this story's reporting be described as anything but one sided?

Maybe that's because the story IS one-sided.

Kid makes clock, takes some pride in it, "responsible" adults provide painfully concrete example of why adults ruin everything everywhere and why Texas adults especially, are not (adults).

Do you need to invite him to the White House? I'm not the officeholder. Does anything like this happen if anything like intelligent adults are in charge? No.

Does the spectacle of Alex Jones and Richard Dawkins making what could almost be interchangeable inane remarks about the situation make a person's head ache? aw hell yeah.

Is your reflexively taking the elementary school authoritarian/racist side in the story look like just another brick in the peculiar wall you're building for yourself? You tell me

David Cameron has fucked a dead pig, apparently.

Staring into the black mirror on that one

I actually hated that show because I saw it as wholly unrealistic, but now.....

Ben Carson said Islam is not compatible with the Constitution and he wouldn't want a Muslim as president.

Watch the poll numbers rise.

karn wrote:When the story is promulgated as "Racism in America 101" and deigns a near immediate personal response from the commander in chief then I do think the facts and yes the language of its reportage matters

who is a secret muslim

MAKES U THINK

The important thing is David Cameron fucked a pig.

i thought you guys were making some obscure black mirror joke that i didn't understand, but holy shit, it actually happened.

Fiorina, Huckabee, and Christie Up; Trump, Carson, and Walker Down

The survey, conducted in the three days after 23 million people tuned in to Wednesday night's GOP debate on CNN, shows that Trump is still the party's front-runner with 24% support. That, though, is an 8 percentage point decrease from earlier in the month when a similar poll had him at 32%.

Fiorina ranks second with 15% support -- up from 3% in early September. She's just ahead of Ben Carson's 14%, though Carson's support has also declined from 19% in the previous poll.

In fifth place is former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, at 9%. He's followed by Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 6% each, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky at 4%, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 3%, Ohio Gov. John Kasich at 2% and former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania at 1%.

Five other candidates received less than one-half of 1 percentage point support: former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former New York Gov. George Pataki and National Disgrace Scott Walker.

Keep falling, Scott!

Worth noting: Trump's "unfavorable" to 40% of people polled.

The horribly depressing:

About 44% of likely GOP voters say they see Trump as the candidate who could best handle the economy -- well ahead of his nearest competitors: Fiorina at 11%, Rubio at 10% and Bush at 8%.

Trump also wins on immigration, with 47% saying he could best address the issue, ahead of second-place Rubio's 15% and Bush's 9%.

He even edges Rubio, 22% to 17%, on who could best handle foreign policy.

Syriza won again in Greece. They will have 145 of 300 seats and get 10 more with a coalition. Their prioritiesare as follows:

■In first 100 days: Cut wage and pension costs again, but less than in previous five years (2% increase in workers' pension contributions, 2% increase in pensioners' national insurance contributions)
■Reform early retirement: Decide which categories will qualify for it (and revamp whole pension system before January)
■Recapitalise banks and set timetable for lifting capital controls
■Hold more talks on debt repayments with EU-IMF lenders, with goal of debt relief deal in January
■Adopt more tax reforms: farmers to see income tax double and fuel subsidy scrapped; new penalties for tax evasion (VAT increase was passed in July; corporation tax was raised by 3%, to 29%)
■Privatise more than half of state electricity network (regional airports and much of road network already privatised)
■Liberalise closed professions, eg removing taxi drivers' fixed tariffs
■Reinstate charges in state health service originally scrapped by Syriza (eg €5 charge for visit to doctor)

the lunatics!

so lindsey graham is badmouthing carson because he (carson) said that muslims are unfit for the presidency

how long before they kick him (graham) out of the club